Uncle Dale Posted July 25, 2007 Posted July 25, 2007 Four questions here:1. Do the LDS General Authorities accept the Torah "bible codes" discovery as possibly being true?2. If such coded messages are found throughout the first five biblical books, was Moses the author?3. How did such intricate coded messages escape the textual manipulations of the G&A church?4. When translated back into ther original Hebrew, do the books of Moses and Enoch have such codes?UD
Doctor Steuss Posted July 25, 2007 Posted July 25, 2007 There's a code in Moby ****. Methinks Melville was a prophet.http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/moby.htmlAnd from Tvedtnes' review of "The Bible Code":"Sternberg also took up the challenge launched by the principal Bible Code researcher, Michael Drosnin, in an article published in the 9 June 1997 issue of Newsweek, in which he said, "When my critics find a message about the assassination of a prime minister encrypted in Moby **** I will believe them." Sternberg asked an Australian mathematics professor, Brendan McKay, "to search Moby **** for such encrypted messages. He found 13 'predicted' assassinations of public figures, several of them prime ministers or presidents or their equivalents." Two examples appear in Sternberg's article. One has a message reading, "Presâ??Somozaâ??diesâ??he was shotâ??gun," which one might connect to the 1980 assassination of former Nicaraguan president Anastasio Somoza. The other has "Igandhi" in a vertical line intersected by a horizontal line reading "thebloodydeed," which brings to mind the assassination of Indian prime minister Indira Gandhi in 1984. Using the same reasoning for Sternberg's study as that employed by the Bible Code researchers, we would have to conclude that God also dictated Moby **** and that Herman Melville was a prophet! A Web site at cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/moby.html cites the various "Assassinations Foretold in Moby ****" and includes the Moby **** prediction of the death of Princess Diana. But even Robert Louis Stevenson predicted the princess's death and that of President Kennedy in his Treasure Island, as can be seen by the examples posted at www.nsli.com/ . . . /torah.The truth is, however, that with enough permutations, one can find such "prophetic" messages in any lengthy text. A Greek Orthodox priest of my acquaintance, using the Bible Code software, found the name Joseph Smith (written in Hebrew characters) several times in the book of Genesis. I wonder how the many evangelical Christians who have bought into the Bible Code business would react to this kind of informationâ??or to the fact that Orthodox Jewish researchers have found the names of many medieval rabbis, alongside their birthdates."http://maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/display.ph...view&id=416
PacMan Posted July 25, 2007 Posted July 25, 2007 Four questions here:1. Do the LDS General Authorities accept the Torah "bible codes" discovery as possibly being true?2. If such coded messages are found throughout the first five biblical books, was Moses the author?3. How did such intricate coded messages escape the textual manipulations of the G&A church?4. When translated back into ther original Hebrew, do the books of Moses and Enoch have such codes?UDHonestly, I think the position of the church is, "What are Bible Codes?"PacMan
SolarPowered Posted July 25, 2007 Posted July 25, 2007 Honestly, I think the position of the church is, "What are Bible Codes?"PacManThat's pretty much my take on this, too."Codes? What codes?"
maklelan Posted July 25, 2007 Posted July 25, 2007 Four questions here:1. Do the LDS General Authorities accept the Torah "bible codes" discovery as possibly being true?Of course not. 2. If such coded messages are found throughout the first five biblical books, was Moses the author?No.3. How did such intricate coded messages escape the textual manipulations of the G&A church?Any one of dozens of reasons.4. When translated back into ther original Hebrew, do the books of Moses and Enoch have such codes?We could probably find all kinds of codes, but that would be an enormous waste of time.
SolarPowered Posted July 25, 2007 Posted July 25, 2007 Four questions here:1. Do the LDS General Authorities accept the Torah "bible codes" discovery as possibly being true?"Codes? What codes?"2. If such coded messages are found throughout the first five biblical books, was Moses the author?As Doctor Steuss related, it appears that the "Codes" are simply random chance. This says nothing about who wrote the books.3. How did such intricate coded messages escape the textual manipulations of the G&A church?There's not much "intricate" about what I've seen--just a word or two here and there. These "messages" didn't "escape" anything--random patterns of this sort can be extracted from any document of sufficient size.4. When translated back into ther original Hebrew, do the books of Moses and Enoch have such codes?Probably. But again, they are meaningless.
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