The Main Difference Between Mormonism And Trad. Christianity

[StriplingWarrior]

hmmmmm

What seperates the Mo's that enter the Ck from those that don't?

I think we need to define a few terms, as I am using them.

Belief=intellectual acceptance of a statement as true

Faith=belief in action

works=works

Mosiah4:30

30 But this much I can tell you, that if ye do not awatch yourselves, and your thoughts, and your words, and your deeds, and observe the commandments of God, and continue in the faith of what ye have heard concerning the coming of our Lord, even unto the end of your lives, ye must perish. And now, O man, remember, and perish not.

1 John 3:7-10

7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the ddevil.

9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

John9:31

31 Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.

I think maybe the misconception that is thought is that if you have some faith and some works you get a partial reward, hence terrestial and telestial.

This isn't true. One can't partially live the gospel of christ. There is no "lukewarm". Hence the consequence is a distribution of glory as God sees fit to give according to the law of justice. The sword of justice may fall on the individual according to the severity of not following these two principles (faith and works), which is ultimately up to God to decide upon.

[Bsix]

So what is it that distinguishes the people in the Terrestrial from those in the Telestial?

The mo's in the Celestial from the Mo's in the Terrestrial or Telestial?

Six: I imagine that what determines each of us for one glory or another is the degree by which we believed and the degree by which we obeyed. Each of us will demonstrate our own unique balance of faith and works.

These two factors will not be seperated at the judgement.

Regards,

Six

[johnny]

flavo,

Is every person who has answered the alter call and confessed and gave their lives to Christ and calls themselves a Christian, saved? Is every person that has followed this path and you see in church every Sunday sitting in the pews saved? Are they truely Christian?

Mark 16:16 tells who shall be saved.

Mark.16

[16] He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

[Tanyan]

WOW !, Johnny we agree on something !.

[johnny]

Her Amun,

>> Ok, so these people have faith(the belief whitch I dont deny is vital) but what? They are baptized and confirmed(acts of faith). But it is by keeping the commandments that they are washed by the atonement. In other words, the atonement only kicks in after they do the works

Mark 16:16 does not say anything about being confirmed ...

Mark.16

[16] He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

>> Overcoming is an act; it requires action.

It requires grace.

>> Who goes to CK= Good mormons

The Bible only indicates two types of people the unjust and the just. The unjust go to the place where the devil is and the just go to the Kingdom.

[seriously honestly]

If someone where to ask me what the biggest difference between mormonism and traditional christianity is, what would it be?

It isn't the BoM. It isn't polygamy. It isn't the temple or the pluralty of gods. I think it is the role faith, grace and works play into salvation.

Nephi said, "It is by GRACE that we are saved after ALL WE CAN DO." Without Christ and His atonement all would be damned. But we get this grace after ALL WE CAN DO, not after ALL WE CAN BELIEVE. It makes no difference if you accept the gospel on your death bed. If you were sodomizing children or leaving pick axes in the chests of innocents, a death bed confession of Jesus or mormonism isn't going to do you any good.

I sure some will disagree, but in mormonism DEEDS outweigh BELIEFS.

In traditional christianty, BELIEFS outweigh DEEDS

when it comes to recieveing grace.

Some have said that we worship a different Jesus. This has some merit. The Jesus I follow does not save ax murderers who confess the night of their execution, while allowing a Rabbi who lived an honorable life, while teaching that Jesus was not the Messiah, spend the rest of eternity in a never ending holocaust.

what about the man on the cross next Christ?

[flavo]

flavo,

Is every person who has answered the alter call and confessed and gave their lives to Christ and calls themselves a Christian, saved? Is every person that has followed this path and you see in church every Sunday sitting in the pews saved? Are they truely Christian?

Mark 16:16 tells who shall be saved.

Mark.16

[16] He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Is that all? Is that it? Is there no other reference in the Bible as to what can be done to be saved? If that is it, why 1590 pages of scripture? Is there no other council on the salvation of man? So I could get my brother or neighbor or just some bum off the street to baptise me and the rest is cake? Eat drink and be merry until the second comming or I burn out and die?

There is more, so much more.

[Tanyan]

Yes Grace is required but Accepting/Accessing/Making Grace a part of your life is also "Required".

Tanyan-LDS JEDI KNIGHT.

[seriously honestly]

what about the man on the cross next Christ?

I feel like I need to explain this more. The man on the cross next to Christ was given grace when he asked Christ to remember him. Jesus told him that he would be with him in heaven. This was a last minute confession of faith and Christ accepted it.

[Doctor Steuss]

I feel like I need to explain this more. The man on the cross next to Christ was given grace when he asked Christ to remember him. Jesus told him that he would be with him in heaven. This was a last minute confession of faith and Christ accepted it.

He told him that he would be in Paradise with Him, which is a different thing than heaven (unless think G-d the Father dwells somewhere other than in heaven).