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15 hours ago, Calm said:

Yes, this is how I see it.  It might be one way to ensure options for agency.  That would be the only justification I can think of for a setup like that.

Though I should be clear, I am not the least committed to the idea of plan B’s. I wondered if it only occurred to Dan because of the coincidence of two Joseph Sr. and Jrs in the same area or if he already had the idea and he just made the possible connection later.

Agency isn’t about being able to make any choice whatsoever for me, it’s about being able to make choices that are true to oneself.  And I don’t see any way to get away from determinism in the sense that behaviour is predetermined by the kind of people we are, but it’s moral agency in my view if our behaviour is ultimately determined by our uncreated, ever existing self rather than others’ influences, even if our only true choice is to choose God.

I don’t see the multiple Josephs as that much of a coincidence given how common the name of Joseph was back then as well as the habit of using Sr and Jr.  Plan B is, imo, a fun idea to toss around, but certainly I wouldn’t suggest anyone should form their ideas about God around it.

Agreed.

I think if Plan B's exist they are to help us and provide a way for God to be as merciful to us as possible.  Not to ensure He can accomplish His work.