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  1. Why do you not think any one is seeing that?
  2. I don't know the law but I did hear of https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/01/child-molesters-wife-sues-mormon-church-for-95-million-says-husband-is-in-prison-because-clergy-reported-his-confession.html. So someone thinks it could be at least worthy of a lawsuit. Edited to add: Apparently in Iowa, it is against the law. Iowa statute 622.10 makes it illegal for the clergy (and a list of others) that received confidential information to testify on it. There might be other states/countries where it is illegal like that.
  3. I would expect the leader to be sued by the perpetrator for breaking the law.
  4. Tacenda, how do we know that the church's lawyers knew enough to be able to save the children? Reading the summaries from Calm, it looks like the bishops and others actually had very little knowledge of what happened. It looks like the man told very little, the wife would hide/ignore the evidence, and the children were too terrified to say anything.
  5. I was under the impression that the hotline is too ensure that the bishop follows the law of the area with respect to reporting; the hotline is not to prevent law enforcement from hearing about crimes. If the action is legal (such as bringing in the parents), then I don't see why the hotline would discourage it. Every instance that I've read about the hotline has always dealt with helping the bishop follow the law, not with hiding crimes.
  6. I get why it stops being confidential. I'm just curious why you think the hotline would have advised the bishop to not have the young man tell the parents? I would expect the hotline to advise the bishop to not tell the authorities since the confession was done initially in confidence but I don't see why the hotline would advise the bishop to not include others.
  7. Why would the hotline not want him to do this? He didn't alert the authorities. He was able to get the young adult to confess in front of other people. I would have thought that Church legal would have no problem with that.
  8. I think the first paragraph from that article is really interesting: It looks like the bishop was trying to protect the victims. He expected the wife/mother to protect them. She failed at that. I wonder if the bishop knew about that. What if he thought the wife was protecting the children and that he (the bishop) and the man were only dealing with past events? The fact that he brought in the wife to protect the children but didn't bring any one else in later makes me think that he wasn't aware of the on going abuse. Because, if the wife mentions the abuse in the counseling sessio
  9. Any ideas where they are broadcasting from?
  10. At least Utah hasn't had an "corona parties" in the news https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/nj-house-party-host-charged-with-violating-coronavirus-executive-order/2348972/ https://nypost.com/2020/03/28/new-yorkers-are-throwing-corona-potlucks-and-visiting-speakeasies/
  11. He mentioned a Disney pirate movie that had the song and I tried to track that down. The closest I found was Thurl Ravenscroft singing it from Treasure Island Disney Story. I don't know how to embed youtube in the post, so this is just a link back to youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg8vlK_BJas
  12. I'm curious on what was the dynastic change that caused the Book of Helaman to be named that instead of a continuation of Alma?
  13. It depends on your operating system. I'd search online for "chrome auto accept self signed certificate". You basically have to export the certificate from the site and then add it to your system's certificate list. Each operating system uses a different certificate system.
  14. Yeah, I have most of my sites using Let's Encrypt as well. With the deprecation of the special UI for "Extended Validation Certificates", I think paid SSL certificates for websites is going to disappear. And with SNI, we no longer need dedicated IP addresses to run an encrypted website. It has made it a lot easier and cheaper to get encrypted websites.
  15. They've installed a self-signed certificate. Basically, it ensures that the communication between your machine and their server is encrypted and no one can view it. Unfortunately, since it is a self-signed certificate, your browsers can't verify it. They don't know if the server mormondialogue.org created the certificate or if some random hacker created the certificate and is "sniffing" your traffic. So when you first access mormondialague.org, your browser is telling you that it doesn't know if the certificate is a hacked certificate or if it is the correct certificate. Technically, you
  16. I'm not sure how that article is supposed to help your statements. In that article, he says things like: It would seem that he would agree that covid-19 is different from the flu and that it might be worse than the flu. That was published on March 12. On that day, the US had 663 cases, 52 deaths, and 12 recoveries. Today, the US has 4632 cases, 85 deaths, and 17 recoveries. (see https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19). The number of cases is almost 7 times the amount it was 4 days ago. P.S. I noticed that my other post said that we are doubling every 4 days bu
  17. First, covid-19 is not a flu virus. Coronavirus are known to cause the common cold as well as other well known diseases, such as SARS and MERS. It is nothing like the H1N1, H3N2 or any of the other influenza strains. The flu vaccine has nothing to do with covid-19. Second, according to a study done based on the Diamond Princess cruise, the R0 (reproduction rate) was calculated to be about 2.2 (see https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19545404). The Diamond Princess cruise gives us an excellent example of what the virus does when there is little to no containment. The seasonal flu, on
  18. I've been to several other Christian church services. Probably my most memorable experience was when my extended family once had a trip where we planned to go to a regular church meeting. On Sunday, after dressing and heading towards the church building, we found out that it was closed (I don't remember the reason). Since we already we dressed and had planned to go to church, we found a Catholic mass that had the same time so we went there instead. All of us are active latter-day saints. I've also attended Community of Christ meetings (when they were still RLDS), and various other
  19. https://coronavirus.utah.gov/if-i-attended-the-byu-gonzaga-basketball-game-on-feb-22-am-i-at-risk-of-exposure-to-covid-19/ has some more information. Looks like the patient wasn't that contagious at the BYU game and since it has been 15 days, no one needs to self-quarantine. Based off of https://coronavirus.utah.gov/health-officials-announce-first-case-of-covid-19-in-utah/, it would appear that the patient was on the Grand Princess ship that is currently in limbo off of the coast of California. The patient would have gotten off on February 21 so he/she would have only just been b
  20. More info at https://www.ksl.com/article/46727977/utahn-diagnosed-with-covid-19-attended-byu-basketball-game-health-department-says It was the Davis County patient who attended the game after returning from the cruise but before being diagnosed.
  21. No, I don't have any suggestions. I can point out the problems as I seem to have a "black hat" mentality (I can generally see where exploits are possible). Sorry.
  22. I was also picturing a much older youth. I don't see how age has anything to do with the power a predator has over someone who is confessing something. The act of confessing generally makes the confessor very vulnerable and if the person hearing the confession was a predator, they could easily take advantage of it. Age doesn't matter. Another adult won't stop inappropriate questions. They happen in one-on-one interviews between adults. They happen in baptismal interviews with adult converts. They happen all the time. Adding another adult will not stop them. The big problem with
  23. I think you might be conflating two issues: one-on-one interviews with predators, and uncomfortable questions. The two are only barely related. A predator generally wouldn't ask those type of questions until much farther along in the grooming process. The predator starts with questions that creates a rapport between the two. Once the relationship is there, then the predator can get the victim alone and ask the more probing questions. Removing the one-on-one interviews will also not stop the uncomfortable questions. They will still happen. Only instead, there will be more adults ther
  24. Any interaction with a bad adult, either one-on-one, or two-on-one, or whatever is unsafe for children. Any questions asked by a bad adult is unsafe. If the adult is bad, that adult will be able to manipulate the child in lots of different ways. Removing one-on-one interviews will be a negligible drop in the bucket for the ability of bad adults to do things. Let's say that we have a bad bishop like him who wants to be bad but one-on-one interviews are discouraged. How would he still be bad? Well, he can just create a youth bike trip (which he did in this case). Or, he could invite a
  25. The man was bishop back in 2014. He didn't meet her until later. See the church statement at https://www.kmov.com/news/st-charles-county-man-charged-with-child-pornography-police-looking/article—29891298-54da-11ea-a5fa-af44e2ba592e.html He met her by taking kids on bike trips. So I guess we should ban bike trips with older adults?
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