ZealouslyStriving

Was it Catholic Apologist Trent Horn that said the Book of Mormon should be burnt?

Like I told @Calm check out their media suite at the 3ABN app. (You can always uninstall later) Edit: I don't mean a media commercial campaign. I mean BYUTV on steroids.

I believe you are thinking of a different definition of "pathetic" than he intended. He is using #1, you are seeing #2 pathetic meaning https://share.google/9IQUdqkQLjkSK5nkg Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more adjective 1. arousing pity, especially through vulnerability or sadness. "she looked so pathetic that I bent down to comfort her" Similar: pitiful pitiable piteous to be pitied moving touching poignant plaintive stirring affecting distressing disquieting disturbing upsetting miserable heartbreaking heart-rending agonizing harrowing mortifying sad wretched poor forlorn tragic doleful mournful woeful distressful Opposite: comical cheerful 2. miserably inadequate; of very low standard. "he's a pathetic excuse for a man"

Oh no, quite the opposite!

I would encourage you to check out their suite of media offerings on the 3ABN app.

As far as I know the only other religious colleges or universities large enough to have major sports are entirely Christian- so I don't believe they are having issues other than traditional animosities and rivalries.

It would be wonderful if the Church invested more in it's media arm. The Seventh-day Adventists are a great in this area.

Interesting that with the exception of Providence, the chants have mainly come from former Pac 10/12 teams... Oregon, ASU, Colorado. Starting to realize why that failed Conference was always recalcitrant to allow BYU in.

When many of our people engage in theological and/or political discussions, if they even hint at some type of staunch pushback our enemies have learned that they can accuse them of "contention" and they will immediately back down. We have to stop that and be MORE like the Church, not completely misinterpreting counsel on being peacemakers to mean we never dare make another person feel uncomfortable. I hope that clarifies it a little.

That was my point. (I feel like I am being gaslit at this point.)

CFR that the Babylon Bee is LDS run.

https://babylonbee.com/news/mormons-respond-to-attack-by-continuing-to-be-amazingly-kind-to-everyone?fbclid=IwdGRjcANJIY5jbGNrA0khemV4dG4DYWVtAjExAAEeg_x7r41I0mmbn6NsePQ-xHlxXV4H1pDwNHhydwP1vbOzdXqoEXPdxrmIhk4_aem_OKOC0hyJKJ58-Fp-ghY2Sg ** Now, obviously, they are not hating on us. But others see it as a trait of which to take advantage. Jesus, nor our prophets and apostles, have said, "Thou shalt be a doormat."**

No. I am flabbergasted that you are missing my meaning so badly.

We should still be kind, but with more backbone. How many have practiced "peacemaking" has many seeing us a pushovers who really won't make a bold stand for ourselves. They know that if we give even the slightest push back they can say, "Tsk, tsk, you're being mean." and we'll immediately back down.

We're acting like the dorky kid in school that lets everybody treat him like a doormat in an effort to join a clique that has no intention of ever letting him enter.

Have zero expectations that Creedalists will reciprocate our efforts, avoiding the sad dismay members are experiencing upon seeing what they really think of us. If you thought I meant to not continue to try to cooperate, you have yet again misinterpreted my comments. As I posted before- you can engage in a good cause without expecting that it will make much of a difference.

Average members, who don't deal with antis regularly, are surprised that Creedalist hatred runs so deep that in the midst of tragedy in our Church their very first instinct is to make sure to tell the world that we worship a "different Jesus" and we aren't "real Christians", or even cheering instead of offering condolences. It is a wake-up call. They thought kindness and cooperation were making significant in roads towards acceptance- they are finding out that for a large swath of Creedalists we will always and only be a "demonic cult" that was "founded by demons" and is under "demonic dominion" (as Mark Driscoll puts it) no matter how accommodating/doormaty we try to be.

I'm guessing it was a combination of things (including anti-Mormon rhetoric, Charlie Kirk shooter background, praise for Pres. Nelson, etc...) because having a bad experience with the Church and an ex in Utah from more than 10 years ago can't be THE explanation. It all just came to a boiling point.

1) Thanks for the clarification, your original post was confusing- it really seemed like you thought the universe was smaller than current models. 2) "live there someday" ... Like have our own individual planets? Seems pretty lonesome, if there is no marriage or offspring. 3) OK

**Apparently getting married and having a son couldn't tamp down his grievances against the Church. **

Just watched a video where an acquaintance, in Michigan, of the person making the video claimed Sanford was demanding " Do you believe in Jesus or Joseph Smith?" while firing. Hearsay for now.

Multiple bomb threats throughout the area being investigated.

2 additional victims found inside the Stake Center.

It already has for Jewish commentator M.A Rothman: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1G7HTzLSQr/ I normally don't comment much on Trump's posts and just copy them here for those who don't see his social media account, but I did want to say something about some of the comments I've seen regarding Mormons - mostly coming from other so-called Christians. I'm a Jew, I don't have a dog in this fight between Christian sects, but the idiocy I'm seeing aimed toward Mormons/LDS is just retarded. You guys are in effect on the same team, and I know the LDS folk have historically been burned (figuratively and literally) by non-LDS, but they aren't anyone's problem other than a bunch of butt-hurt folks who think they aren't worshipping right. We all have a common enemy in radical Islam and none of you are being endangered by some folks who worship differently under the LDS banner, so stop being idiots and looking for fights where none are needed. It's just dumb, and some of you guys are acting like Leftists when you're doing this. Some of you might not have a clue what I'm talking about, but I've blocked at least 20 different accounts responsible for hundreds of comments on this topic, and I'm just annoyed about it. You guys are brothers and sisters in Christ, act like it. It shouldn't require a Jew such as myself to say that. Anyway, I'm saying this more because I know Trump's message below is gonna trigger a bunch of you crazy people... Act like you're civilized and not like the radical idiots who are the enemy... 𝐍𝐎𝐓𝐄: Looking at the comments I realize you guys can't help yourself, can you? I'll note that it's the so-called Christians that aren't LDS who are attacking, and the LDS wondering what the heck is going on that they deserve to be denigrated. All the while, the Muslims are laughing at all of you. Congrats on that.