clarkgoble Posted July 25, 2019 Author Posted July 25, 2019 5 hours ago, Stargazer said: In these quotations Tassin records him using the native word for "deer" when speaking of both horses and cows belonging to the whites. Is this what you mean by "semantic drift"? Yup. Although the best examples are Spanish words when encountering indigenous weapons or animals. But as you note the same phenomena happens for people encountering old world items. 5 hours ago, Stargazer said: Yeah, but even if there were herds, are we absolutely going to find bones? I found the following sentence at "Question: What role do horses NOT play in the Book of Mormon" at FAIR Mormon Answers: We won't necessarily find horse bones, but then that is evidence that there weren't horses particularly when we find post-Columbus horse bones.
The Nehor Posted July 26, 2019 Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) Read most of the dissertation. Interesting, but not conclusive. Funny, I remember when I was taught that horses came with the Spanish in Middle School and was impressed that the indigenous people got so good with horses so fast and, while I could see some escaping, it seemed odd that they spread and multiplied that fast. I remember deciding that someone smarter then me must have figured out how. I was much more trusting back then. I am inclined to believe her but I am a little skeptical about some of the things recounted to her as oral. As great as oral history is I doubt it survived unchanged through the diseases that swept the New World and the conflicts and displacements that followed. All that being said I suspect she is right and even hope she is. Mostly for the sake of the Book of Mormon and just recovering history but partially because it would mean never having to hear a stupid tapir joke ever again. Edited July 26, 2019 by The Nehor 2
SettingDogStar Posted July 27, 2019 Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, The Nehor said: Read most of the dissertation. Interesting, but not conclusive. Funny, I remember when I was taught that horses came with the Spanish in Middle School and was impressed that the indigenous people got so good with horses so fast and, while I could see some escaping, it seemed odd that they spread and multiplied that fast. I remember deciding that someone smarter then me must have figured out how. I was much more trusting back then. I am inclined to believe her but I am a little skeptical about some of the things recounted to her as oral. As great as oral history is I doubt it survived unchanged through the diseases that swept the New World and the conflicts and displacements that followed. All that being said I suspect she is right and even hope she is. Mostly for the sake of the Book of Mormon and just recovering history but partially because it would mean never having to hear a stupid tapir joke ever again. You gotta admit though, the tapir tie pin thing is pretty creative haha I almost got one myself as a joke until I realized what that might signal to people. Edited July 27, 2019 by SettingDogStar
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