Atheist Mormon Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 On 8/7/2017 at 10:28 PM, Bill "Papa" Lee said: So, what to do? Thoughts? Regretfully for me, it was these types of scriptures chipped away my faith alltogether......What I did not understand then, even now.....why did we insist keeping them in the holy book? Besides this was not an authentic writing of Paul as scholars and historians believe.
MormonMason Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Atheist Mormon said: Regretfully for me, it was these types of scriptures chipped away my faith alltogether......What I did not understand then, even now.....why did we insist keeping them in the holy book? Besides this was not an authentic writing of Paul as scholars and historians believe. They don't bother me too much. I tend not to judge the past by today. Why did we keep them? The official Bible of the Church in English is the KJV. Start pulling out books and it ceases to be the KJV. And we have the JST for some of them. Just to clarify: some scholars believe that the Pastorals are not authentic Pauline writings, including some of the most popular. Others dispute that. Recent findings in recent decades have lent some weight to such disputation. Turns out that in ancient times people sometimes would give scribes more freedom in phrasing and vocabulary under certain circumstances. Sometimes they would hand the scribes a list of things to say and leave it to their scribes to fill in material. This would somewhat change the style between letters. Not a lot of scholars discuss ancient scribal practices like that. Edited April 12, 2018 by MormonMason
Guest Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 40 minutes ago, Atheist Mormon said: Regretfully for me, it was these types of scriptures chipped away my faith alltogether......What I did not understand then, even now.....why did we insist keeping them in the holy book? Besides this was not an authentic writing of Paul as scholars and historians believe. I have been fortunate, growing up as I did, with a Father as a Baptist Pastor. As I studied, any question I had I could go to him and be taught, not to mention a great bonding method between Father and son. Then to find other scripture and to devote another lifetime to it, and still be able to approach him and learn how our doctrine, or should I say, "correct doctrine", intermingled. But if I read your comment correctly when you speak of one scripture chipping away at the other. It is my fear that all people have too incomplete a study of the entire body of scriptural canon. They know their lessons, their discussions, but not, as Jesus Christ put it, "every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God". But, I also have to admit that this can cause questions, but never in my mind and dismissal of Faith. 1
Gray Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 On 4/12/2018 at 4:07 PM, MormonMason said: Yes. And some go far overboard and further than internal evidence allows. Yes, of course. Still, I don't think working backwards from theological committeemen is any way to make a historical argument - in fact I know it's not. If you want to make a theological argument, you don't need historical data to begin with. You simply need revelation and faith.
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