hagoth7 Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Bernard Gui said: I'm trying to connect this with donor fatherhood. From what I understand, single women who want a child are the majority of donor recipients. So in your view this would not be perceived as a threat to the overall pool because they are not interested in marriage. A married couple seeking donor children also would not be perceived as a threat because it would not diminish the pool. No. Someone being a donor receipient doesn't tell us whether they are married, temporarily unmarried, or unmarried AND preferring to stay such. So it typically flies below the radar of such concerns. 54 minutes ago, Bernard Gui said: A married couple seeking donor children also would not be perceived as a threat because it would not diminish the pool. True. Edited July 4, 2017 by hagoth7
hagoth7 Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Bernard Gui said: On the other hand promiscuity did not (does not?) diminish the pool?... Eye of the beholder. You choose. 57 minutes ago, Bernard Gui said: Among many people of that time, having a child out of wedlock stigmatized the woman... But...not so much the man, for some odd reason. Akin to the brief NT stone-throwing discussion in priesthood meeting last month. 57 minutes ago, Bernard Gui said: Among many people of that time...resulted in a forced marriage.... True. Not always. Sometimes, family history reveals quite a bit of character. Sometimes a stunning amount. 57 minutes ago, Bernard Gui said: ...to hold the father responsible for is actions.... That was *said* to be the motivation. Not convinced that was always the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. 57 minutes ago, Bernard Gui said: How is a donor who has children with multiple women different from a polygamist... In part, the former relationship is limited to arm's length gratitude for a child. 57 minutes ago, Bernard Gui said: How is a donor...different from...a celebrity... Dunno. Not being a woman, or a celebrity, guessing blindfolded, playing the piano with oven gloves: 1. A closer temporary bond/interaction. 2. Perhaps a longer-term fond sense of feeling more significant by having interacted with someone that their peers happen to like? 3. Perhaps some sense of feeling their child has some claim to being different/unique/special? (Even though all children are.) 57 minutes ago, Bernard Gui said: How is a donor...different from...a rogue? Might wanna ask. Edited July 4, 2017 by hagoth7
Bernard Gui Posted July 4, 2017 Author Posted July 4, 2017 2 hours ago, hagoth7 said: My native tongue. (Still getting a handle on this English thing.) And as a Canadian, I have apparently over-politely (or unintentionally rudely/curtly) exited most of my comments...without imposing on others a helpful summary/clarification of what I *really* meant... ...as helpfully pointed out yesterday by MFB (thank you sir). That feedback was golden. Repenting in the 11th hour. A last second hail Mary/Sariah/Deborah/Joseph towards the end zone. Yes. That's my best current guesstimate, based on what was published and done back then, although I don't do time-travelling mind reading of 1800's people as a side job. Willing to be corrected on that today, if better information is available. That said, I'm certain many men believed they truly were defending Utah women by outlawing polygamy. Most likely not realizing that such an act was also removing their right to vote. (Most of us believe our intent is noble, whether we acknowledge making the occasional misstep or not.) Got it. Thanks.
Bernard Gui Posted July 4, 2017 Author Posted July 4, 2017 1 hour ago, hagoth7 said: Might wanna ask. Ah, but these are cool rogues. Well, on second thought, all rogues are cool. Maybe scoundrels? Star Wars has that covered, too. I'm searching for the right euphemism. Help me out here.
hagoth7 Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 53 minutes ago, Bernard Gui said: Ah, but these are cool rogues. Well, on second thought, all rogues are cool. Maybe scoundrels? Star Wars has that covered, too. I'm searching for the right euphemism. Help me out here. Gasp! Dunno how I might help. Would I *ever* be caught wasting time on something as unproductive as sci-fi? Came across a great/good/OK article last night in the most recent edition of Christianity Today, about the importance of unstringing the bow, something Joseph spoke of. Artists' Way refers to it as refilling the well. (Highly recommended book..changed my life years ago.) Gotta go unstring/refill now. :0) Happy 4th to patriot rogues in America and beyond.
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