volgadon Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 5 hours ago, consiglieri said: I suppose by this time somebody has brought up Galileo. I see no further argument on the subject as even necessary. Are you talking about the guy who publicly humiliated and insulted his friend and patron of the sciences, getting into trouble over it? 2
Kemara Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, TheSkepticChristian said: Prayer religion Theism vs non-Theism Original position religion, then Christianity, then theists, then Christians, then belief in a personal God, then religion again - so many shifting goal posts - vs. atheists/agnostics - your original and most consistent position. You now have yet another position - "the question is". Quite appropriate that you are reduced to fictional cartoons. Edited February 24, 2016 by Kemara 2
TheSkepticChristian Posted February 24, 2016 Author Posted February 24, 2016 1 hour ago, Kemara said: Original position religion, then Christianity, then theists, then Christians, then belief in a personal God, then religion again - so many shifting goal posts LOL how? it's the same thing.
thesometimesaint Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 15 hours ago, USU78 said: Cfr English Common Law is, at least in part, based on what the monarch decided at the time. The US has never had a monarch. We have a written constitution with a separation of powers.
thesometimesaint Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 6 hours ago, TheSkepticChristian said: LOL how? it's the same thing. No they are not. Theism is the belief in one or more gods. Atheism is the denial of any god.
Gray Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 14 hours ago, TheSkepticChristian said: The God of Spinoza is not a conscious God. Correct, but I hope because you're using the word God you understand that this is not equivalent to atheism. 1
TheSkepticChristian Posted February 24, 2016 Author Posted February 24, 2016 21 minutes ago, thesometimesaint said: No they are not. Theism is the belief in one or more gods. Atheism is the denial of any god. Theism/Christianity/Prayer Religious Vs Atheist/God of the Physicists/ Non-Theism It's the same thing
thesometimesaint Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 7 minutes ago, TheSkepticChristian said: Theism/Christianity/Prayer Religious Vs Atheist/God of the Physicists/ Non-Theism It's the same thing SEE http://ncse.com/religion
consiglieri Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 9 hours ago, volgadon said: Are you talking about the guy who publicly humiliated and insulted his friend and patron of the sciences, getting into trouble over it? I was attempting to refer to the guy whose scientific findings were opposed by the dominant religion of his day.
thesometimesaint Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 To be fair to Galileo and his friend and patron the Pope. Galileo's writing didn't name the Pope as a simpleton but one of his advisers.
Gray Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) 36 minutes ago, TheSkepticChristian said: Theism/Christianity/Prayer Religious Vs Atheist/God of the Physicists/ Non-Theism It's the same thing It's really not. Pantheism is the belief in God that is so expansive, it encompasses the entire universe. Monotheism is closer to atheism than pantheism, as monotheism rejects belief in most gods. But neither are actually close to atheism at all. Edited February 24, 2016 by Gray 1
volgadon Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 23 minutes ago, consiglieri said: I was attempting to refer to the guy whose scientific findings were opposed by the dominant religion of his day. You must have a different Galileo, then. 3
TheSkepticChristian Posted February 24, 2016 Author Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Gray said: It's really not. Pantheism is the belief in God that is so expansive, it encompasses the entire universe. Monotheism is closer to atheism than pantheism, as monotheism rejects belief in most gods. But neither are actually close to atheism at all. Okay, but it is true the most scientists are not prayer religious. Let's just leave it like that. Edited February 24, 2016 by TheSkepticChristian
thesometimesaint Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 Science is Agnostic on the question of God SEE .
Gray Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 12 minutes ago, TheSkepticChristian said: Okay, but it is true the most scientists are not prayer religious. Let's jut live it like that. Maybe, but there's really know way to know for sure. Many pantheists pray, despite not believing that prayers are answered by a personal god.
Kemara Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 4 hours ago, TheSkepticChristian said: Okay, but it is true the most scientists are not prayer religious. Let's just leave it like that. It is also true that most scientists are theists or deists, not atheists or agnostics...according to your data. 2
TheSkepticChristian Posted February 24, 2016 Author Posted February 24, 2016 5 minutes ago, Kemara said: It is also true that most scientists are theists or deists, not atheists or agnostics...according to your data. but for being at 4% of the General Population they do pretty good.
Kemara Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 12 hours ago, TheSkepticChristian said: LOL how? it's the same thing. LOL how? How is religion Christianity, is every religion Christianity, is every religious person a Christian? Is everyone who believes in a personal God religious? Is every theist a Christian or religious? Is theism a religion? You cant decide what your position is. Even your very first post contradicted your thread title. You are such a flexible person you should be a yoga instructor. As I said - so many shifting goal posts. 1
Kemara Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 1 hour ago, TheSkepticChristian said: but for being at 4% of the General Population they do pretty good. Yes, agreed
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