salgare Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 42 minutes ago, mfbukowski said: Resentment can kill you. I would caution anyone against using so much time expressing it There is more to life than revenge and anger. When you are against everyone and debating every word out of every mouth, if the debate makes sense or not, but just because they dared speak, that is a sign of major resentment. It's just plain not healthy. I agree with this, and struggle way too often to put mine aside. I feel for my friend Consig. Step away for a bit good friend.
Ahab Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 Faith and repentance are or at least should be at the core of everything we teach and talk about because those 2 things, and the principles they involve, are at the heart of everything we do and believe. Faith is about being sure of something, an assurance (from someone) that helps us to know what we should think or do or believe. Have a question about something? Get some faith by accepting someone's assurance on their response to your question and then you will have sonething to be sure about on that issue. Repentance is about changing your mind or attitude when you have some faith that you are or have been wrong in some way. Faith that helps you to be sure of the idea that you are or have been wrong. It takes faith to be sure that you are or have been wrong as well as some faith to help you feel sure about how you can correct your mistake. So with those 2 things, faith and repentance, you have everything you need to know and learn everything about everything. Just be careful about who you get your faith from. 1
Guest Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 8 hours ago, consiglieri said: I appreciate your sharing those views, Pa Pa. Here is where it gets a bit tricky for me, though. The Church has produced a series of manuals for the last decade or so on the teachings of presidents of the church. A few years back, they did one on Brigham Young. The manual quotes Brigham Young throughout, as is to be expected. But most of those quotes come from the Journal of Discourses. (The manual cites to Widstoe's Discourses of Brigham Young, which itself cited to Journal of Discourses, but it amounts to the same thing.) My question then becomes whether, at a minimum, those quotations from the Journal of Discourses should be considered authoritative in some sense. Obviously they are not in the canon, but they have been published by the LDS Church in official manuals, which does give it authority. If those quotes from the Journal of Discourses are now authoritative by virtue of the manual, what about the entire sermon from which the quotes are taken? You also mentioned the King Follett Discourse, My recollection is that the KFD was also published in the manual on the teachings of Joseph Smith, or at least parts of it. Here is a link: https://www.lds.org/manual/teachings-joseph-smith/chapter-2?lang=eng So are those parts of the KFD that were published in the manual now authoritative? And if those parts are authoritative, what about the parts of the KFD not published? See how confusing this can become? Agreed, these publications do carry with them implied authority. But when they are at odds (or seem to be at odds) with canonized scripture, the scripture must overrule and render void the comment(s). If not then nothing can be depended on and we are indeed trying to nail jello to the wall. I have found that when I believe something to be in conflict, additional study usually helps me to reconcile these teachings with scripture. I once had a friend tell me that ever if the Book of Mormom was not true he will still follow the teaching of Joseph Smith. I informed him that in that case he belongs to a cult and not the restored Church.
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