Tom m Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 I'm going to post this one again except not as a pdf click the links if you want to see the artifacts. Cloth and fine twined linenHelaman 6:1313 Behold their women did toil and spin, and did make all manner of cloth, of fine-twined linen and cloth of every kind, to clothe their nakedness. “skeleton 248 had been dressed in a skirt of finely woven cloth extending from the waist to the knees, to which had been sewn pearls, bears-teeth, and other ornaments”(Moorehead 1922 pg169)“The relics which are most numerous are spear-heads, arrow-heads, …. needles, and occasionally specimens of woven fiber, which might have formed the clothing for a rude people, and a few specimens of the higher works of art” (Peet 1892 pg 25) Click the link to see the Hopewell/Nephite woven clothhttp://apps.ohiohistory.org/ohioarchaeology/top-ten-masterpieces-of-the-hopewell-culturerevealed/ Woven cloth worn as clothes it is theorized from artifacts found that the Hopewell Indians at times wore their clothes as robes as they did in Jerusalem. Click the link to see Nephite/Hopewell Buttons pg 198 https://books.google.com/books?id=7DNLDlbQXaYC&printsec=frontcover&dq=hopewell&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Q8lrVdvkGIHSoATa8YCYAw&ved=0CEYQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=button&f=false “Unarguable Mississippian period representations of garments do exist, and these make credible the interpretation of the burial 103 fabric as a possible garment. For example, Phillips and Brown (1978: Plate 20) illustrate fragments of a Spiro engraved shell cup that depicts male human figures wearing tunics that cover one shoulder and a portion of the chest. One of a croup of six human figures engraved on the Rocky Creek limestone slab (Parker 1949:Figure 2) is shown wearing a cloak-like garment that covers the shoulders, one arm, all but the lower part of the other arm, and the entire torso.”A Most Indispensable Art: Native Fiber Industries from Eastern North America By James B. Petersen “Equivocal representations of garments over the upper body include two almost identical shell gorgets from Mound C at Etowah, one of which cam from the 1884 BAE excavations (Thomas 1894:Figure 190), and the other (unpublished) from burial 19 excavated in 1954 by Larson. The dual human figures have the upper body and arms covered with parallel lines that may represent a garment…”A Most Indispensable Art: Native Fiber Industries from Eastern North America By James B. Petersen“The elite nature of the fabric evidence and the burial context warrants such in inference here. Mound C apparently supported a mortuary temple which, in turnm served as the focus of anelaborate complex of funerary rituals associated with a high status social group at Etowah (Larson 1971)”A Most Indispensable Art: Native Fiber Industries from Eastern North America By James B. Petersen
ERayR Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 I'm going to post this one again except not as a pdf click the links if you want to see the artifacts. Cloth and fine twined linenHelaman 6:1313 Behold their women did toil and spin, and did make all manner of cloth, of fine-twined linen and cloth of every kind, to clothe their nakedness. “skeleton 248 had been dressed in a skirt of finely woven cloth extending from the waist to the knees, to which had been sewn pearls, bears-teeth, and other ornaments”(Moorehead 1922 pg169)“The relics which are most numerous are spear-heads, arrow-heads, …. needles, and occasionally specimens of woven fiber, which might have formed the clothing for a rude people, and a few specimens of the higher works of art” (Peet 1892 pg 25) Click the link to see the Hopewell/Nephite woven clothhttp://apps.ohiohistory.org/ohioarchaeology/top-ten-masterpieces-of-the-hopewell-culturerevealed/ Woven cloth worn as clothes it is theorized from artifacts found that the Hopewell Indians at times wore their clothes as robes as they did in Jerusalem. Click the link to see Nephite/Hopewell Buttons pg 198 https://books.google.com/books?id=7DNLDlbQXaYC&printsec=frontcover&dq=hopewell&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Q8lrVdvkGIHSoATa8YCYAw&ved=0CEYQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=button&f=false “Unarguable Mississippian period representations of garments do exist, and these make credible the interpretation of the burial 103 fabric as a possible garment. For example, Phillips and Brown (1978: Plate 20) illustrate fragments of a Spiro engraved shell cup that depicts male human figures wearing tunics that cover one shoulder and a portion of the chest. One of a croup of six human figures engraved on the Rocky Creek limestone slab (Parker 1949:Figure 2) is shown wearing a cloak-like garment that covers the shoulders, one arm, all but the lower part of the other arm, and the entire torso.”A Most Indispensable Art: Native Fiber Industries from Eastern North America By James B. Petersen “Equivocal representations of garments over the upper body include two almost identical shell gorgets from Mound C at Etowah, one of which cam from the 1884 BAE excavations (Thomas 1894:Figure 190), and the other (unpublished) from burial 19 excavated in 1954 by Larson. The dual human figures have the upper body and arms covered with parallel lines that may represent a garment…”A Most Indispensable Art: Native Fiber Industries from Eastern North America By James B. Petersen“The elite nature of the fabric evidence and the burial context warrants such in inference here. Mound C apparently supported a mortuary temple which, in turnm served as the focus of anelaborate complex of funerary rituals associated with a high status social group at Etowah (Larson 1971)”A Most Indispensable Art: Native Fiber Industries from Eastern North America By James B. Petersen I take it that it has Nephi's name embroidered on it? 3
The Nehor Posted July 4, 2015 Posted July 4, 2015 This board is beginning to look like my spam folder. 3
Hagoth Posted July 4, 2015 Posted July 4, 2015 As I have pointed out elsewhere, woven cloth in North America dates back to 6000 BC. Woven cloth was developed by every culture advance enough to have agriculture and by many that hadn't even reached that level of development - everywhere in the world. You know what would be better evidence for the Book of Mormon than finding something that everyone everywhere had? If we found something that the Book of Mormon claims only the Nephites had.
Tom m Posted July 4, 2015 Author Posted July 4, 2015 I take it that it has Nephi's name embroidered on it?I like that. That is a good one.
PeterPear Posted July 4, 2015 Posted July 4, 2015 The Nephites were not the Maya.But I hear Maya cloth has the name of Nephites embroidered on it - in Maya glyphs - of course.
ERayR Posted July 4, 2015 Posted July 4, 2015 The Nephites were not the Maya.But I hear Maya cloth has the name of Nephites embroidered on it - in Maya glyphs - of course. Could be I don't read Mayan so I couldn't tell.
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