Aminadab Posted May 16, 2012 Posted May 16, 2012 CASteinman-That is a fantastic model from beginning to end. Thank you for demonstrating what pastoral apologetics might look like. How much better for the person to feel that the member on the other end is engaging them as people, showing compassion, and acknowledging their feelings. It is when trust is built through showing the hurting person that you are with them... not necessarily in agreement with their perspective on factual/doctrinal issues... but see that the person is a good person with valid concerns and it still part of the family of LDS folk. That is a wonderful starting point, I think.
cinepro Posted May 16, 2012 Posted May 16, 2012 (edited) Mormon: But we learned in Gospel Principles that Moses wrote Deuteronomy! Blasphemy!Since Deuteronomy ends with Moses' death, I'm pretty sure most LDS could figure out that Moses didn't write it... 7 ¶And Moses was an hundred and twenty years old when he died: his eye was not dim, nor his natural force abated.8 ¶And the children of Israel wept for Moses in the plains of Moab thirty days: so the days of weeping and mourning for Moses were ended.9 ¶And Joshua the son of Nun was full of the spirit of wisdom; for Moses had laid his hands upon him: and the children of Israel hearkened unto him, and did as the Lord commanded Moses.10 ¶And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the Lord knew face to face,11 In all the signs and the wonders, which the Lord sent him to do in the land of Egypt to Pharaoh, and to all his servants, and to all his land,12 And in all that mighty hand, and in all the great terror which Moses shewed in the sight of all Israel. Edited May 16, 2012 by cinepro
CASteinman Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 I just realized, in that dialog, it would be well, if somewhere along the way the "P Apologist" could find within himself the charity that generates a true love for the "Mormon" so that he could say, with honesty of heart, "Brother, I love you. I know this is a rough problem but together we can figure it out. Thanks for trusting me to be your friend", or some words to that effect. It has to be real. The Holy Ghost can help so much in that.
Aminadab Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 I just realized, in that dialog, it would be well, if somewhere along the way the "P Apologist" could find within himself the charity that generates a true love for the "Mormon" so that he could say, with honesty of heart, "Brother, I love you. I know this is a rough problem but together we can figure it out. Thanks for trusting me to be your friend", or some words to that effect. It has to be real. The Holy Ghost can help so much in that.Excellent point.
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