Bikeemikey Posted April 8, 2012 Posted April 8, 2012 Based on the math Jacob would have lived until almost 100 and Enos would have to have been born when he was up in his late 70s early 80s and then Enos would have to have lived until about 100.Wondering if any threads on this topic or info from any other sources may be around.Cheers.
Calm Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 I have heard at least one suggestion that the Enos of the book is the grandson of Jacob and not Jacob's son. IIRC, Enos of the book is not identified as Jacob's son. Too lazy to doublecheck, you should because it is that time of night my memory starts getting twisted around.
Benjamin McGuire Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 The first of the two potential insertion points are to add a second Jacob (we would see the last verse of Jacob 6 as an end to Jacob's record, and Jacob 7 would then be potentially the record of another Jacob. While this reads reasonable well, it runs into the problem that Jacob 7 seems to fit quite well into the rhetorical structuring of the Book of Jacob and its use and reapplication of Psalm 95. The other is to suggest multiple persons named Enos. While we would have to have an Enos who was Jacob's son (from Jacob), the Book of Enos never names the father of Enos, leaving open the potential that the Enos who wrote the Book of Enos was not the son of Jacob who wrote Jacob 7. Which is the stronger argument - the continuity of Jacob 1-7 or the double ending? I am not opposed to either explanation - but they are both too speculative to be relied on as having explanatory power.Ben M.
Bikeemikey Posted April 9, 2012 Author Posted April 9, 2012 The first of the two potential insertion points are to add a second Jacob (we would see the last verse of Jacob 6 as an end to Jacob's record, and Jacob 7 would then be potentially the record of another Jacob. While this reads reasonable well, it runs into the problem that Jacob 7 seems to fit quite well into the rhetorical structuring of the Book of Jacob and its use and reapplication of Psalm 95. The other is to suggest multiple persons named Enos. While we would have to have an Enos who was Jacob's son (from Jacob), the Book of Enos never names the father of Enos, leaving open the potential that the Enos who wrote the Book of Enos was not the son of Jacob who wrote Jacob 7. Which is the stronger argument - the continuity of Jacob 1-7 or the double ending? I am not opposed to either explanation - but they are both too speculative to be relied on as having explanatory power.Ben M.Interesting. Thanks for your ideas on this.The numbers suggest a viable framework where by Jacob could have been roughly 100 when he died and had Enos when he was around 80.Enos would then have inherited the plates late in his own life and lived to roughly 100 as well.The numbers arent beyond what could be considered reasonable, I was curious to see if anyone else had thoughts on this.Cheers,Mike
Tepui Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 ...the Book of Enos never names the father of Enos, leaving open the potential that the Enos who wrote the Book of Enos was not the son of Jacob who wrote Jacob 7. Which is the stronger argument - the continuity of Jacob 1-7 or the double ending? I am not opposed to either explanation - but they are both too speculative to be relied on as having explanatory power.Ben M.And 1 Nephi 3:7 doesn't mention any specific commandments. So why accept that argument?It's obvious from the books of Jarom and Omni that the writers wrote in the smaller plates near the end of their lives, due to limited space.Jacob was near the same age as Laman's, Lemuel's, Sam's, Nephi's and Zoram's children. And younger than Ishmael's grandchildren. (1 Nephi 7:6)There's no need to insert a second Jacob.
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