Mormon Bishop Says Church Responsible For Gays’ Emotional Wounds

[Storm Rider]

Storm Rider:

Violence just inspires more violence. Just say no and walk away.

Friend, not every encounter is verbal. When it is an unwanted physical approach while in the shower, I can understand how some men would react quickly with a bit of fisticuffs. As I stated, I was just so stunned I could only stare in shock and disbelief. It was not until later that I became angry for the sheer audacity and complete disrespect this individual exhibited. It was a personal violation just short of rape. It still makes me shake my head; I was in one of the better clubs in Seattle and this...twit felt he was entitled to grabbing anyone he chose. How did he learn a lesson to not do such a thing by my being shoked?

[Daniel2]

Friend, not every encounter is verbal. When it is an unwanted physical approach while in the shower, I can understand how some men would react quickly with a bit of fisticuffs. As I stated, I was just so stunned I could only stare in shock and disbelief. It was not until later that I became angry for the sheer audacity and complete disrespect this individual exhibited. It was a personal violation just short of rape. It still makes me shake my head; I was in one of the better clubs in Seattle and this...twit felt he was entitled to grabbing anyone he chose. How did he learn a lesson to not do such a thing by my being shoked?

I have been inappropriately (and without invitation) physically groped by a couple of women at BYU.

I wonder if it would it have been appropriate to "deck" (punch) any of them, just because their advance was sexually-suggestive?

Daniel2

[thesometimesaint]

Storm Rider:

I appreciate the emotional response. However violence never really solves the problem when some idiot wants to prove just how big of an idiot he/she is. That being said if they are violent first then do whatever is a proportionate response to stop their action.

[thesometimesaint]

Daniel2:

As my mom taught me. You NEVER hit a lady. But if she's stupid enought to hit you first. She's proven she's not a lady, so you deck her.

[DarkScythe]

well With women groping and it makes you uncomfortable, first gently let them down and walk away. I do believe that Modern code of chivalry should be encourage for all men and women.

[Daniel2]

well With women groping and it makes you uncomfortable, first gently let them down and walk away. I do believe that Modern code of chivalry should be encourage for all men and women.

I think if any individual misjudges a situation and makes a romantic gensture towards someone who doesn't share their romantic interest, the recipient would always do well to avoid violence, "gently let down" the other person "and walk away"--regardless of the genders of anyone involved (of course, I'm speaking of a romantic gesture--even physical groping--that isn't so aggressive that it wouldn't be classified as "violent"--rape or forcable sexual assault is another matter, entirely, which may need to be met with the necessary force to halt such uncalled for behaviors).

My view,

Daniel2

[Pahoran]

I think if any individual misjudges a situation and makes a romantic gensture towards someone who doesn't share their romantic interest, the recipient would always do well to avoid violence, "gently let down" the other person "and walk away"--regardless of the genders of anyone involved (of course, I'm speaking of a romantic gesture--even physical groping--that isn't so aggressive that it wouldn't be classified as "violent"--rape or forcable sexual assault is another matter, entirely, which may need to be met with the necessary force to halt such uncalled for behaviors).

My view,

Daniel2

My view is that there is nothing romantic about "groping." Unwanted groping is an assault.

And breaking the assailant's arm seems like a suitably unambiguous way to let them down gently.

Regards,

Pahoran