Beck and Mormonisn - Missionary work

[frankenstein]

can we leave politics out of this. Do you agree.

[Pahoran]

It might prompt people to examine LDS history and theology more. People might ask, what is the Book of Mormon? Is it a plausible scripture? Does the S[paulding]/R[igdon] theory adequately explain it's origins?

And when they realise that it doesn't, they will begin to ask other questions, such as:

If the Book of Mormon was such an obvious fraud as the chorus of naysayers unanimously insist, why are they so desperate for an explanation of its origins that they keep trying to revive this ridiculous, long-dead "theory?"

Regards,

Pahoran

[Pahoran]

can we leave politics out of this. Do you agree.

Certainly. But let's be clear on this point: when Beck disagrees with other Christians about things that they are pleased to describe as "social justice," he is engaged in a political disagreement. He is not, as Noel-oo is trying to imply, repudiating, renouncing, attacking or othewise distancing himself from "Christianity."

Regards,

Pahoran

[TAO]

It might prompt people to examine LDS history and theology more.

Already do. It doesn't change much though; personal experiences trump history kinda.

People might ask, what is the Book of Mormon? Is it a plausible scripture?

Yep, it is.

Does the S/R theory adequately explain it's origins?

Somewhat. But it isn't the only theory which explains it's origins. For example, another theory that Joseph told the truth.

Also, I wonder why people would be asking history whether a holy text is true or not when they should be asking God.

Turning the light onto your faith's origins might be a two edged sword. I am not bigoted if I after reading all the relevant arguments come to the conclusion that the LDS claims are false.

I'm afraid it hasn't. No amount of history can be bent to deny what God has told me. Yes, and 'bent' is the correct verb. I see things from the lens God gives me to see them, so I may see their true purpose. I don't see them through people's lenses which confuse and distort the true message.

I am free to do so in any blog, letter to the editor or messageboard. If I am civil,toughminded I will get a fair hearing, if I rant and rave and make unsubtaniated statments I will be ignored.

You are free to do so.

So I see an incongruity between the statements Beck makes of others he disagrees with and his personal claims of faith. Calling people bigoted who disagree with you is a bad argument.

You may see that if you wish. I'm no fan of Beck, and tend to distance myself from politics, but I'm not going to be going looking into other people's errs, when there is so much to fix about myself first. I mean, noticing other people's errors is so unimportant.

[noel00]

Beck told people to leave those churches that preached social justice. That's not the same as getting someone to change politics. See Against Cheap Grace in a World Come of Age (Martin Luther King, Jr. Memorial Studies in Religion, Culture, and Social Development, Vol. 9) (Clingan Ralph Garlin) for the type of preaching that Bonhoeffer would have been exposed to. Since December, 2008 the S/R corpse has been resuscitated. The next few years will tell if it is going to be reburied.

[LifeOnaPlate]

Right after I have a good laugh at anyone who assumes that I was talking about "their take" on any subject.

I simply observed that "social justice" is a slogan frequently pressed into the service of a left-wing agenda. Do you disagree?

Regards,

Pahoran

Catholics have been talking about social justice as long as anyone. I disagree that it can easy be deflected by calling it "left-wing."

[LifeOnaPlate]

Certainly. But let's be clear on this point: when Beck disagrees with other Christians about things that they are pleased to describe as "social justice," he is engaged in a political disagreement. He is not, as Noel-oo is trying to imply, repudiating, renouncing, attacking or othewise distancing himself from "Christianity."

Regards,

Pahoran

Actually, Beck made remarks without precision (big shock there), thus opened himself to criticism from religious perspectives, including my own.

[LifeOnaPlate]

Since December, 2008 the S/R corpse has been resuscitated. The next few years will tell if it is going to be reburied.

No, it's merely been dug up again, it's the same old corpse with a few bells and whistles added to make it appear as though it's making some noise. It's as silly as some of Glenn Beck's whacky conspiracy theories.

[Avatar4321]

Glen Beck seems to cry too easily--- on the other hand he is a funny guy.

I hear Jesus wept also.

[thesometimesaint]

I hear actors are paid to cry on cue.

[ERayR]

Glenn Beck generates a lot of praise and intense dislike from nonlds. When one reads the letters in the various online newsletters, many know he is a Mormon and have a negative view of his beliefs. A recent poll found that while Bush and Palin were regarded as Christians, a very small % did not believe he was. He was even lower than Obama, which is strange since he seems to consider Obama as the anti-christ.

Harry Reid generates some paraise in some circles and a lot of dislike in others. When one reads or hears about Harry Reid how many know he is a Mormon and have a negative view of his beliefs? A public figure is going to generate both negative and positive views of what they do and say.

[ERayR]

Beck told people to leave those churches that preached social justice. That's not the same as getting someone to change politics. See Against Cheap Grace in a World Come of Age (Martin Luther King, Jr. Memorial Studies in Religion, Culture, and Social Development, Vol. 9) (Clingan Ralph Garlin) for the type of preaching that Bonhoeffer would have been exposed to. Since December, 2008 the S/R corpse has been resuscitated. The next few years will tell if it is going to be reburied.

Social Justice is politics.

[Skylla]

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