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  1. I came across it online. I don’t know what his credentials were other than he has marketable skills. Went from know it all returned missionary to bitter Apostate atheist. Talked of going back to Mtc as pranks. Had many answers. Basically said the Spirit converts that is true of course. But does he say one thing to one person and another to someone else. Said we are to find honest in heart not those who don’t want to hear or believe something else. We don’t like being told we are wrong. They have sincere beliefs too and are devout. Praised Cat Stevens for doing what he thought was right in joining Muslim church. What good would a belief against gravity do? The lord wants all people to join the church. Doctrine and Covenants 49 had harsh words to people who only want to believe the truth in part. There is no salvation in believing something that can’t get you exalted. Tolerance means we are to be civil to people we disagree with. But we do want all people to embrace the truth. We don’t tell people there church is wrong as much as we invite people to bring the truths they already have and teach them correct doctrines on things such as authority, fall of,Adam and Godhead. God is not a Godmof confusion. Then gave advice on people that choose to leave, saying follow your conscience if you don’t think the church is right for you. Critical of people who tell us to keep post mission dress and grooming standards. Saying not that important. Unless you go to ces school we’re mustaches are allowed can have facial,hair, but have been counseled to keep decent grooming. When writing that book I wonder how he went from know it all returned missionary to devout atheist or agnostic? Critical of people that invite others to church in recent blog. Jesus said if you are not one you are not mine. In book said a missionaries boneheaded moves could cost people there exaltation. Few people join the church anyway. I doubt something they say will keep someone out of the church. Then he tries to lead others astray. irony there. Upset at people inviting others to church than tears down religion. I don’t think too many people listen to him. Any rm could of written a book like he did as well.
  2. Who tried voice text without proofreading? Something totally different can come out than what you say. Autocorrect can cause people to say things different than what they intended to type. English teachers at then Ricks College told us when we used grammar check in computer lab make sure it is correct. Use grammar correct then it is wrong without proofreading. spell and grammar check can speed up people if used correctly. Newspaper reporters with deadlines that can help. Derailed thread with comments on grammar and spell check.
  3. Joseph Smith said it is contrary to the order of Heaven for someone to receive revelation for someone higher than themselves. Also said that someone that finds fault with others saying they are righteous while the church is out of order is on the road to apostasy. We’re does Joel get revelation the prophet is wrong or not inspired do to the stewardship principle? Is he apostatizing himself? Boyd K Packer used the word sky is falling, chicken lickens, of fables encouraging members to gather to colonies or cults. Won’t go astray following leaders. HTTPS://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/General-conference/1992/10/to-be-learned-is-good-if if link does not work go to church website and Boyd K Packers oct 1992 conference speech. And our fifth article of faith says people must be called of God by those in authoarity.
  4. He gave speech at High School auditorium then tells people not to go to Hospitals and stay out of schools with covid restrictions. So if you need life threatening surgery don’t go there?Last years lecture said his kids are better off for being home schooled despite missing out on some social aspects. And they will look you in the eye and have friends not just there age, whereas public school students don’t have those manners. stereotyping there. There are home school students with good and bad manners as well as public school students. I would say most kids even in public schools are for the most part good kids. Just his stereotypes. Gets a few people to follow him with some out thee ideas.
  5. Things he says are mostly political. Uncle Cleon wrote good books on Thousand year series but may have had out there ideas. Joel has many conspiracy thereos. There will be a war with Taiwan and China, Russia is just underground and Russia and China will attack us. World War three will start but we’re too busy fighting covid. wrote books on strategic location and survivalism. Used word Mormons in recent lecture. Need to walk t9 Zion. Conspiracy big time. People died with vaccine, Eisenhower killed man6 German pow,s. ideas of 911, Lockerbie bombing, Pearl Harbor Us either provoked those countries or didn’t do enough to stop them. Put things in wtc to cause the building to collapse and there are surviving terrorists. Okc bombing and waco cover ups too. YouTube deleted his lecture. we’re does he get all the information? Dallin H Oaks in speech about strength becoming weaknesses mentioned patriotism and people building up armies. 12th article of faith says to obey law. He said leaders were not inspired to tell people to take vaccine and some members persecuted for not getting vaccine. Won’t wear mask. Boyd K. Packer 1992 Oct mentioned people following the chicken lickens we know what’s going on 42:11 Doctrine and Covenants. Quentin L Cook beyond mark mentioned Oct 2016; and M Russell Ballard trek continues admonished people not to listen to those not called. I seen people fall away listening to self appointed leaders. What will happen when those wars he predicts don’t come to pass? He is a fear monger. In General Conference, Stale Conference, devotionals and other speeches how many times do,you hear fear mongering from those called and sent? Are to be prepared with savings and food storage, but that is for typical emergencies and disasters not some future event. and your not to share food storage and fuel you’ll go under if you do. Vaughan J Featherstone ten virgins explanation was spiritual what we can’t share not temporal. We get to share and not stand in judgement. who follows him and what does he know the brethren we know are called don’t? Russia and China I am sure will leave us alone for the most part. Be prepared but don’t go extreme like he’s advocating.
  6. Is the kids autopsy complete. If it is I am sure the prosecuting and defense attorneys as well as judges will have all the information they need ahead of the trial which will last as long as Methesulah. I guess Chad was Methusaleh in a past life. Lori was his wife. Male cattle manure of course on both of those claims. if autopsy is complete can they go ahead with there memorial services and give them a proper burial? Had candlelight vigils, three memorial services are planned. Won’t be able to have a viewing of course. When will they have the funerals?
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