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  1. I'm not sure about you but If I had a very sacred experience, I would probably talk differently about it to a general audience at say General conference, than I would around my family or others in a small personal setting
  2. I think sometimes the spirit speaks stronger than words. Even if they did all come out and say "We have personally seen Jesus Christ" What would change for you?
  3. I found a few quotes. I think to assume they haven't seen him is based on nothing but opinion. Their testimonies seem to say otherwise. I'm sure there are many more than this, but its what I was able to quickly find As one of those called as special witnesses, I add my testimony to those of fellow Apostles: He lives! He lives with resurrected body. There is no truth or fact of which I am more assured, or know better by personal experience, than the truth of the literal resurrection of our Lord.[1]- Ezra Taft Benson And so on the third day following His burial, He came forth from the tomb alive and showed Himself to many. There were witnesses then who saw Him. There have been many in this dispensation who have seen Him. As one of those special witnesses…I testify to you that He lives. He lives with a resurrected body.[2] - Ezra Taft Benson ‘He [Elder Brown] said it was not a vision, but the Lord appeared to him, very informal, the same as I was sitting talking to him. The Lord said, ‘You have had some difficult times in your life.’ Uncle Hugh responded, ‘Yes, and your life was more difficult than any of us have had.’ In the conversation Uncle Hugh asked when he would be finished here, and the Lord said, ‘I don’t know and I wouldn’t tell you if I did.’ Then He said, ‘Remain faithful to the end, and everything will be all right.’[3]- Hugh B. Brown Mine is the certain knowledge that Jesus is our divine Savior, Redeemer, and the son of God the Father. I know of his reality by a sure perception so sacred I cannot give utterance to it. I know and testify with an absolute awareness that Joseph Smith restored the keys of the fulness of times and that every President of the Church has held those keys, as does President Gordon B. Hinckley today.[5]- James E. Faust I know that this is the Lord’s work. I know that Jesus Christ lives, and that he is closer to this Church and appears more often in holy places than any of us realize, excepting those to whom he makes personal appearance.[9] - Harold B. Lee Why don't our talks in general conference and local meetings say more about the miracles we have seen? Most of the miracles we experience are not to be shared. Consistent with the teachings of the scriptures, we hold them sacred and share them only when the Spirit prompts us to do so…In bearing testimonies and in our public addresses we rarely mention our most miraculous experiences, and we rarely rely on signs that the gospel is true. We usually just affirm our testimony of the truthfulness of the restored gospel and give few details on how we obtained it. Why is this? Signs _follow_ those that believe. Seeking a miracle to convert someone is improper sign seeking. By the same token, it is usually inappropriate to recite miraculous circumstances to a general audience that includes people with very different levels of spiritual maturity. To a general audience, miracles will be faith-reinforcing for some but an inappropriate sign for others.[12] Visions do happen. Voices are heard from beyond the veil. I know this. But these experiences are exceptional. And those who have these great and exceptional experiences rarely speak of them publicly because we are instructed not to do so (see D&C 63:64) and because we understand that the channels of revelation will be closed if we show these things before the world.[13] - Dallin H. Oaks [In his journal, Marion G. Romney wrote:] I don't know just how to answer people when they ask the question, "Have you seen the Lord?" I think that the witness that I have and the witness that each of us has, and the details of how it came, are too sacred to tell. I have never told anybody some of the experiences I have had, not even my wife. I know that God lives. I not only know that he lives, but I know him.[23] - Marion G. Romney In conclusion, please be assured that senior Church leaders who preside over the divinely appointed purposes of the Church receive divine assistance. This guidance comes from the Spirit and sometimes directly from the Savior. Both kinds of spiritual guidance are given. I am grateful to have received such assistance.[27]- Quentin L. Cook
  4. Elder Neal L Anderson: "We do our best to testify of Jesus Christ. We know He lives. We have experiences and sacred moments so remarkable and unforgettable that we can say with surety that He lives, that He is resurrected, and that He guides our work upon the earth." "I've often wondered why they don’t just come out and say they’ve personally seen Christ, they always seem to stop just short of saying it, and yet its very much implied @ 1:00:00
  5. Say you fund an account with money from a job that you have paid tithing on. Over the decades you grow that from a very small amount of money into a very large amount. You then take that money and put it into dividend payers and it pays you quarterly or monthly and you can now quit your job and live off that money. Would you now pay tithing off the increase of your now very large nest egg? My gut says yes, because why not give more. None of this was ever ours to begin with anyways right
  6. If you hardly see much difference between the two extremes you could almost come to the conclusion that it has been designed that way for a reason. Faith is necessary, we HAVE to choose. Be believing or be a skeptic. It's almost like their is a power in exercising faith, and yet too many lack the courage or conviction to really step onto that path
  7. Not impossible, improbable. Brett over at the LDS truth claims youtube channel posed an argument to absurdity starting at the 11 minute mark. You should copy and past the transcript into Chat GPT and see what it comes with as a counter argument for all of his points. I have yet to hear a good convincing counter argument to all of this from the critical side. Its always the same thing he "probably had hidden notes, used the King James bible and stories from his environment, he was a genius" etc
  8. Brother and his family, no not really religious anymore. My wifes aunt and her family seem to still believe in God but I'm not really too sure where they are at spiritually
  9. I know a few people, some close family members who left the Church and even took their names off the records during the 2020-2022 timeframe regarding how the Church handled Covid, pushing masks and the jab etc that they didn't agree with and saw that as a form of corruption. Seeing the Governments around the World doing corrupt things and then watching the Church go along with it was enough to push them over the edge I guess
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