EllenMaksoud Posted August 14, 2013 Author Posted August 14, 2013 This should have been given to you as an investigator or a new convert though a year or two ago it was that standard text for SS so as to review for everyone. I will try and find the book cover for you. Just ask in your library to see it, they should have copies to lend out if you would rather read it in hard copy...in fact you should have been given one and have it on your shelf for reference.It should have been the text for what Sunday School class you went to for the first year after baptism (the Gospel Principles class is what it is usually called), but some small wards if they don't have missionaries that attend church don't have enough teachers to spare and so skip it and just have new converts go into Gospel Doctrine classes.Cover is the fourth one down: http://www.lds.org/m...school?lang=eng Found it !!! Part of the first year they had me in "OTHER" classes until I refused them. Thank you.
Buzzard Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 This is very surprising. I have not heard of Muslims shoplifting, of course I have never seen anyone shoplift. I was followed from time to time and one time I turned around and asked the guy to just walk with me and help me shop. There is a spectrum of righteousness in every group. I pulled a "For the Strength of Youth" pamphlet out of a teenagers purse once along with a wad of jewelry she had purloined. When I told her that committing a crime was something she needed to confess to her Bishop (I had asked), she got a deer in the headlights look then started crying. I suspect that here in UT, a substantial portion of arrestees are probably LDS.
EllenMaksoud Posted August 14, 2013 Author Posted August 14, 2013 There is a spectrum of righteousness in every group. I pulled a "For the Strength of Youth" pamphlet out of a teenagers purse once along with a wad of jewelry she had purloined. When I told her that committing a crime was something she needed to confess to her Bishop (I had asked), she got a deer in the headlights look then started crying. I suspect that here in UT, a substantial portion of arrestees are probably LDS.Teen you say? Well I know the law takes a very jaundiced view of crime at any age. I wonder what child development folk would say about criminal acts in the young? Not excusing her act. Sometimes connecting what they are told to their beliefs in such a way so they understand that the law applies to them comes as a shock.
EllenMaksoud Posted August 14, 2013 Author Posted August 14, 2013 Are there not Muslim American women who dress like everybody else? I am under the impression that just like Jews there are conservative and liberal Muslims, as well as ultra conservative Muslims who insist on the "full Monty" especially from their women....Oh yes, Many Muslims are "nominal" Muslims because in their countries and even here in the US with their families there is often no choice, and if no choice, how can one make a personal decision for faith? I know many women who dress normally until it comes to Friday at Jumah prayer, and then they are all covered and proper. Aren't many of us that way also, but it is in our hearts and not visible to everyone else? These days, with no distractions, I try very hard to be the same woman on Wednesday as I am on Sunday. However, with 6 children running around, 2 in diapers, and you with a flat on the freeway, how does that work?
EllenMaksoud Posted August 16, 2013 Author Posted August 16, 2013 Heh. I learned Gulf Arabic, not Modern Standard - and it's a transliteration anyway (added to which, my grammar isn't all that great, so you never know...)I should learn Farsi, but there's only so much time available for frivolous things (I'm toying with learning Welsh, maybe. Or perhaps Aramaic. Or maybe Python.)Anyway, apart from the usual pleasantries, I was just noting that some people (shwayaat naas) in the west (al-gharb) speak a little Arabic - even if they're not Muslim.Yes, now I have read the document that you mentioned and my what a pleasant surprise! I am of course, referring to "Gospel Principles" Ch 39. I am happy that the church has taken such a stand as this. I do not know why we have not set through a lesson on this chapter. Well, perhaps I do know. Perhaps this lesson is taught in young men and young women classes. I as a convert had never seen it, though with my being Muslim (practially a Nun!) perhaps it was not seen as necessary.
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