elguanteloko Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 Your remark is offensive not only to God that's all right. he can complaint.and those who believe I don't see why it should be offensive to you at all. Did you understand the point of that post of mine?but to those little ones who suffer ...you didn't get my point.so, not because of God, but because of the evil men in charge of their countries. lol agreed. no one suffers because of God.You also assume that God is not aware of them If he exists as is described he has to be aware of them. I'm not saying otherwise.and doesn't send his angels to comfort them. ...and those angels are...?? People who hate the oppressors? Sure, good people fight against bad people (and vice versa). Why give the credit to God, I don't know at all.But that doesn't presuppose that God will intervene when man's agency is involved. I don't think you realize AT ALL what this statement involves. Think about it. Evil will get it's due and those who suffer are a testament against those who allow such evil. Who cares if they are a testament of anything to God? How does that profit those that suffer? If you see a child starving because X killed his parents, stole his food, leaves him in the street... are you going to help him or say he is a testament? we see which one God does and you support it.It's so easy to blame everything on God because then we feel we have no responsibility.lol Indeed!
Hestia Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 elguanteloko is no longer able to participate on this thread due to his continued mocking of God and faith. He was already given one warning.
Monster Posted February 25, 2011 Author Posted February 25, 2011 The Church has never taught or endorsed that outward appearances are more than loving God and obeying him.All I can say is earrings and tattoos.
Monster Posted February 25, 2011 Author Posted February 25, 2011 It is the Holy Ghost, not your culture and upbringing that give you a true testimony.Perhaps but the Holy Ghost tells me Mormonism is flawed. So is it the Holy Ghost now or something else.
Monster Posted February 25, 2011 Author Posted February 25, 2011 He doesn't reveal himself because we need to learn by faith in this life, without faith we have no agency. If God reals himself we no longer have faith but knowledge that God exists. Our progression requires us to be separated from our Heavenly Father to make the discussions required to be exalted or not without a perfect knowledge that he exists.Why? What is so intrinsic about faith that it makes us better. I do not hide from my children and then tell them it is for their own good. This line of thinking is established by those who try and explain why God is silent. Perhaps it is true but on what basis to you claim it to be true other than that is what you have been taught.Knowing God exists does not affect our free agency. We can still choose to follow or not follow. It just removes the ambiguity.
Questing Beast Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 I keep asking myself why does God hide. It seems he is nowhere to be found in crisis or any other time really. I know there are individuals that feel God is around all the time. They feel his presence and can speak with him. But many others see or hear nothing. It is like there is a big void they are trying to fill with a being who is not around. ...The oldest "god question" in the world never goes away. Everyone asks it.My "take" on the matter is simple: "God" would spoil the reason for us being here if we saw presence all around us, all of us, all the time. That isn't part of the scenario of mortality. Some people have one "set" of metaphysical feelings, some another. And some are hypo spiritual and feel and see nothing, their whole lives, nothing at all. No two of us are exactly the same, so our perceptions vary enormously - so I suppose anyway, but can't say because in my observation, nobody every connects metaphysically with another human being, so we can't tell what other people think or feel or "see" metaphysically.But, the sure thing is that existence is a fact. And existence requires a cause. So you might as well capitalize it, "Cause". Beyond that evident fact? Who knows?...
Deborah Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 I do not hide from my children and then tell them it is for their own good.But you do let them go and make their own choices, even when those choices sometimes hurt them. You aren't continually hovering over them once they leave home. You may call them once in awhile or they might call you. Sometimes you even let them take the consequences of their choices so that they will learn. And sometimes things that happen to them are out of your control and all you can do is be there to offer comfort when they need it. To say that God hides is not correct. He isn't hiding. He's letting us experience mortality as we agreed and were willing to do before we came here.
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