God's Dietary Laws

[LDSToronto]

Isn't it interesting that so many people chew on purpose? Where i live, it's very prevelant, even among women.

There must be some addictive quality to it, once you've cleared the taste hurdle. Fortunately, I couldn't get past the initial experience, and never went back.

H.

[LeSellers]

Notice He explained purposefully that we are to partake in remembrance of Him.

Which is also what the Mosiac Law was all about, although the Israelites did not practice it as intended by the Lawgiver.

It's interesting to note that the D&C specifically precludes a Pharisitical practice of the sacrament by allowing that anything may be used to represent the flesh and blood of Christ. We could use kool aid and crackers if we wanted and serve them in paper cups or glass goblets.

Which underscores the concept of covenantial token

Only the words of the actual covenant matter.

Here I disagree.

While the words are critical (they're the covenant and the Priesthood ordinance), there are also two other components that are important. First is the "sealing power" of the Holy Spirit of Promise (see Doc&Cov 132), along with the part you've already noted: the person partaking must do so in remembrance of the body/blood of Christ. These two are interconnected. The partaking of the emblems is also an integral part of the ordinance.

Without all three, the prayers, the partaking and the sealing, the ordinance has no effect.

Lehi

[mercyngrace]

Here I disagree.

While the words are critical (they're the covenant and the Priesthood ordinance), there are also two other components that are important. First is the "sealing power" of the Holy Spirit of Promise (see Doc&Cov 132), along with the part you've already noted: the person partaking must do so in remembrance of the body/blood of Christ. These two are interconnected. The partaking of the emblems is also an integral part of the ordinance.

Without all three, the prayers, the partaking and the sealing, the ordinance has no effect.

Lehi

I agree with all that, Lehi. My comments were about the outward performance aspects of the ordinance.

[LeSellers]

Isn't it interesting that so many people chew on purpose? Where i live, it's very prevelant, even among women.

The first time I saw an old "lady" pick up what I thought was a cup of iced tea and spit her tabacky juice into it, I nearly lost my cookies, right on her lap.

Ugh! to the n^th degree.

Lehi

[LDSToronto]

The first time I saw an old "lady" pick up what I thought was a cup of iced tea and spit her tabacky juice into it, I nearly lost my cookies, right on her lap.

Ugh! to the n^th degree.

Lehi

At least now I can summon that image in 2011 and be sure I will hit resolution #1 - no more overeating.

H.

[Robert F. Smith]

The point I was trying to make was about the relationship between tokens and the covenant. You can't suggest Christ nullified all outward signs of the law when we have Him recorded as instituting an outward performance and participating in others.

It might be well to point out (in light of Gordon Thomasson's "Kosher & Treyf: Mosaic Dietary Laws and the Rhetoric of Otherness in the Book of Mormon," Jan 1993), that the Jews don't require the Gentiles to follow their rules of kashrut. However, they do believe that all men are required to observe the Laws of Noah, which include dietary restrictions against eating blood, which represents life itself and is used to make atonement sacrifices (Talmud Babli Hullin 111a, 117a; Genesis 9:4, Lev 3:17, 7:26-27, 17:11-12, Deut 12:16). This Jewish and Noahide rule is deliberately violated by the Lamanites in the Book of Mormon, including the taking of an oath to do so (Enos 20, Jarom 6, Alma 49:27, 51:9). An anti-Sacrament?!

Pork, however, is acceptable among the Gentiles biblically (Gen 7:2, 9:2-3), as well as among the Jaredites in the Book of Mormon (Ether 9:18). Naturally, the Nephites follow the Law of Moses (Jarom 5).