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So I'm going to raise this issue in a separate thread so that no one misses my question. For the first time, I'm finally feeling really motivated to begin studying MB's work on the OT.

I'm going to lay down some money, so for the experts out there, what book(s) should the novice begin with?

Posted
So I'm going to raise this issue in a separate thread so that no one misses my question. For the first time, I'm finally feeling really motivated to begin studying MB's work on the OT.

I'm going to lay down some money, so for the experts out there, what book(s) should the novice begin with?

In Dr. Hanblins Last Video she gave the answer. I'll have to watch it again and then post it hear.

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Christensen suggested Temple Theology to me, and Barker supports that in her interview with Hamblin.I recently recieved a copy through ILL service. It arrived here from Iowa. It is great!

For a mormon perspective, I recommend Christensen's "Paradigms Regained." It is very good.

Posted
So I'm going to raise this issue in a separate thread so that no one misses my question. For the first time, I'm finally feeling really motivated to begin studying MB's work on the OT.

I'm going to lay down some money, so for the experts out there, what book(s) should the novice begin with?

Temple Theology. But it may be too elementary for David "Guardian-of-the-Gods" Bokovoy.

Posted
So I'm going to raise this issue in a separate thread so that no one misses my question. For the first time, I'm finally feeling really motivated to begin studying MB's work on the OT.

I'm going to lay down some money, so for the experts out there, what book(s) should the novice begin with?

I think that would depend on what you are trying to learn.

Would you, excuse me, would that novice be trying to learn about Margaret Barker, herself, or Margaret's personal beliefs concerning the Old Testament, or the personal beliefs of Methodists, in general, or the text of the Old Testament, itself?

The questions are as important as the answers you want to get, and at this point I'm not sure that I understand what you are asking.

:P

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The questions are as important as the answers you want to get, and at this point I'm not sure that I understand what you are asking.

It is possible your answers may be less than helpful to Mssr. Bokovoy.

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It is possible your answers may be less than helpful to Mssr. Bokovoy.

Of course, just as it is possible than any answer from anyone else may not help him.

Let's try to be a little more hopeful than that, though. Shall we, consiglieri?

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Of course, just as it is possible than any answer from anyone else may not help him.

Let's try to be a little more hopeful than that, though. Shall we, consiglieri?

All I mean to say is that a person who has never even heard of Margaret Barker may not be able to lead Mssr. Bokovoy to the best book he should read by her as an introduction to her large body of work.

Capice?

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All I mean to say is that a person who has never even heard of Margaret Barker may not be able to lead Mssr. Bokovoy to the best book he should read by her as an introduction to her large body of work.

Capice?

After seeing recent photo, I would not call WWF Champion David "Guardian of the Gods" Bokovoy "Mrs" or anything slightly resembling that.

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All I mean to say is that a person who has never even heard of Margaret Barker may not be able to lead Mssr. Bokovoy to the best book he should read by her as an introduction to her large body of work.

Capice?

Yes, I see your point, but what does that have to do with me or what David wants to find out?

You seem to be assuming that I have never heard of Margaret Barker, and that David wants to learn all about her large body of work, which may be a valid assumption, at least to some extent, but I would rather hear David personally tell me what it is exactly that he is seeking to learn about Margaret or her beliefs before suggesting how a novice could go about it.

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After seeing recent photo, I would not call WWF Champion David "Guardian of the Gods" Bokovoy "Mrs" or anything slightly resembling that.

There are rumors that David rents himself out as a Tyler. (â??Twas what a birdie told meâ?¦ before David squashed it).

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After seeing recent photo, I would not call WWF Champion David "Guardian of the Gods" Bokovoy "Mrs" or anything slightly resembling that.

Please review my post and brush up on your French.

(I am like, so embarrassed to have to be saying this to a BYU professor.)

Cheers!

--Consiglieri

Yes, I see your point, but what does that have to do with me or what David wants to find out?You seem to be assuming that I have never heard of Margaret Barker, and that David wants to learn all about her large body of work, which may be a valid assumption, at least to some extent, but I would rather hear David personally tell me what it is exactly that he is seeking to learn about Margaret or her beliefs before suggesting how a novice could go about it.

*sound of Consiglieri driving head through plate glass window*

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Please review my post and brush up on your French.

(I am like, so embarrassed to have to be saying this to a BYU professor.)

Cheers!

--Consiglieri

Je ne parle pas Francais! Francais n'est pas Chic; est tres 2007.

And do you really think the Guardian of the Gods cares about the difference between being called Mrs and "mon sewer"?

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Please review my post and brush up on your French.
The correct abbreviation for "Monsieur" is "M" (sometimes with a period). Of late, many French have taken to using the English abbreviation "Mr." or a variant "Mr", but this is considered heresy in many polite circles.

The plural, in French, is Mrs., but in English it is Messrs. (pronounced May s'yuh), and is the correct plural of the English "Mister".

Lehi

Posted
So I'm going to raise this issue in a separate thread so that no one misses my question. For the first time, I'm finally feeling really motivated to begin studying MB's work on the OT.

I'm going to lay down some money, so for the experts out there, what book(s) should the novice begin with?

:P;):crazy: YOU!?? A novice? I'm really lost now.

In the meantime could someone answer David's question. :::pulling hen's teeth:::

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Hi Ron,

You posted:

>>In the meantime could someone answer David's question. :::pulling hen's teeth:::>>

Me: IMHO, I would start with Margaretâ??s The Great High Priest, for if one is to start with a single volume of her works, this one presents a panoramic view of her theories. Her chapter on Philo is quite informative; however, the implications culled from that important chapter are, in essence, neglected by so many LDS authors who invoke her writings.

Grace and peace,

David

Posted
Hi Ron,

You posted:

>>In the meantime could someone answer David's question. :::pulling hen's teeth:::>>

Me: IMHO, I would start with Margaretâ??s The Great High Priest, for if one is to start with a single volume of her works, this one presents a panoramic view of her theories. Her chapter on Philo is quite informative; however, the implications culled from that important chapter are, in essence, neglected by so many LDS authors who invoke her writings.

Grace and peace,

David

So I picked up Temple Theology. I'm going to read The Great High Priest next and I promise not to neglect my study of the chapter on Philo. Given my love for the Canaanites, I'm actually a big fan of his Phoenician History.

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I think that would depend on what you are trying to learn.

Would you, excuse me, would that novice be trying to learn about Margaret Barker, herself, or Margaret's personal beliefs concerning the Old Testament, or the personal beliefs of Methodists, in general, or the text of the Old Testament, itself?

The questions are as important as the answers you want to get, and at this point I'm not sure that I understand what you are asking.

:P

Not really interested in Methodists or the Old Testament, simply Margaret's personal beliefs.

Thanks.

Posted
Christensen suggested Temple Theology to me, and Barker supports that in her interview with Hamblin.I recently recieved a copy through ILL service. It arrived here from Iowa. It is great!

For a mormon perspective, I recommend Christensen's "Paradigms Regained." It is very good.

Excellent, Brother. Thanks for this suggestion. So far my only exposure to her views have been some bits and pieces I've picked up through Kevin's writings.

I'm finally ready to take the plunge.

best

Posted

Okay, I hope you guys are happy.

I just ordered Temple Theology from Amazon . . .

and two other books by Barker (Second Angel and Enoch Influence.)

I suppose I have to have something to read until October 26th.

Please give my regards to Maggie.

All the Best!

--Consiglieri

Posted
Hi Ron,You posted:>>In the meantime could someone answer David's question. :::pulling hen's teeth:::>>Me: IMHO, I would start with Margaretâ??s The Great High Priest, for if one is to start with a single volume of her works, this one presents a panoramic view of her theories. Her chapter on Philo is quite informative; however, the implications culled from that important chapter are, in essence, neglected by so many LDS authors who invoke her writings.Grace and peace,David
AMEN & AMEN!!! Her book "The Great High Priest" is a very GOOD place to begin your initiation into enjoying her writings. Her "Great Angel," is also doggone good. Her "Older Testament" is more difficult, but very necessary. And I also agree that Christensen's "Paradigm's Regained" is beautiful to read in conjunction with the LDS themes. Also his essay in the FARMS book "Glimpses of Lehi's Jerusalem." This is VERY helpful.
Excellent, Brother. Thanks for this suggestion. So far my only exposure to her views have been some bits and pieces I've picked up through Kevin's writings. I'm finally ready to take the plunge. best
Yer gonna LOVE IT MAN! I can't put her materials down. I mention her ideas in almost every video I produce on You Tube. Even my Dead Sea Scrolls 11Q Melchizedek vids I use her extensively, and the viewers LOVE THE MATERIALS! Soooooo, welcome to the "I love reading Margaret Barker's writings" club..... :P

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