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Does anyone here have access to edit the FAIR wiki? If so, would you mind updating the article on "adieu" with a few of these? I ran into the critisism, and provided the FAIR wiki info, but it didn't seem to convince the person. So, I then went on the war-path and spent more time than I should have utilizing "Uncle" Dale's site (BTW, if I haven't thanked you lately UD... Thank You!). Whoever does edit it -- if someone does -- please make sure to provide a link to UD's site (solomonspaulding...).

Thanks.

Oh, there're little bits of comentary mixed in with the refs. They are from my post on the other board and I'm too lazy to edit them out.

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This is from the Christian Register and Boston Observer, Saturday, August 22, 1840, Vol. XIX No. 34 -- This is a Boston newspaper that was "Devoted to Unitarian Christianity, Sound Morals, Literature and News"

They are making many proselytes in the Southern States, and in England, as well as in the West. Truth is mighty! -- So is error! May 'the truth as it is in Jesus' prevail, by whatever name it goes. Adieu,

Truly yours, W. P. H.

This is from The Mormon, Saturday, July 12, 1856, Vol. II -- Although this is an LDS "friendly" periodical, it was nonetheless circulated to the general populous:

They were then permitted to bid adieu to their mother and families, and were told that "to-morrow they die at 9 o'clock," from which fate they were providentially saved through the interference of the gallant General Doniphan, who declared to Major General Lucas, "It is cool blooded murder; and if you execute them I will hold you responsible before an earthly tribunal.

This is from the Voree Herald, April,1846, Vol.I. No. 4 -- published in "Voree, W. T.", I believe this was one of James Strange's periodicals.

I have not time to write more. I would be glad to hear from you as soon as convenient. Adieu -- mat the God of love and peace direct all your footsteps and bring us at last unto his heavenly kingdom.

This is from the Daily Missouri Republican, Thurs. May 13, 1846, Vol. XXIV No. 3898 -- This newspaper was published in St. Louis, Missouri and was far from "friendly" to Mormons.

[...]the spectator cannot fail to be struck with the lightness of heart, apparent cheerfulness, and sanguine hopes with which families bid adieu to their friends, and set out on their journey.

This is from The Niagra Democrat, June 2, 1837, Vo. II. No. 40 -- This publication was from Lockport, NY

Turner here bids his readers a final adieu, in a valedictory column, saying his "active participation" probably "will not again be resumed," -- however he soon enough returned to the controlling reins at the Niagara Democrat.

This is from Republican Advocate, Friday, Sep. 22, 1826, Vol. 15 No. 763 -- Published in "Batavia," this one is prior to the establishment of the LDS Church.

[...]by a Canadian Spy of the name of Daniel Johns and headed by a citizen of Le Roy, who must ever bid adieu to the character of a Legislator after having headed such a lawless assemblage, who openly avowed their intention of destroying my printing establishment; and which would have been done, is admitted by Masons in this village, but for Mrs. Morgan's having delivered up certain papers on that day.

This is from the Chicago Times, Saturday, August 7, 1875 -- a newspaper (whose name should still be familiar) published in Chicago, Il. Although it is slightly outside of the publication of the BoM, I still think it is a valid example of the use of the word adieu amongst the general public in America.

The same year the faithful bade a friendly adieu to Clay county and settled in Caldwell, founding the historic town of Far West which soon became prosperous and populous. At this time Joe Smith was a banker at Kirtland, but in 1837 his bank suspended payment and Joe made good time to Far West where he again assumed the leadership of his flock.

This is from the Republican Compiler, January 7, 1834, Vol. 16 No. 18. -- A periodical published in Gettysburg. The title of the article is kind of funny that this appears in. It is "THE MORMONITES AGAIN."

It is in vain to deny, that sectarian influence has nothing to do in this matter-the stake and the fagot was anciently used to burn heretics, and if they are to be revived again, we may bid adieu to liberty equality, and the rights of man!

This is from the Warsaw Message, January 17, 1844, Vol. I. No 4. -- A newpaper from Warsaw, Illinois

If so, farewell freedom; adieu to personal safety, and let the red hot wrath of an offended God purify the nation of such sinks of corruption! For that realm is hurrying to ruin where vice has the power to expel virtue.

This is from the Kansas City Daily Journal June 5, 1881 -- Published in Kansas City, Mo. It is a little into the future, but close enough to be a contemporary IMO.

This ended the interview ad after bidding the old man adieu and thanking him for his kindness the writer took his leave.

This is from the Lee County Democrat, June 15, 1844, Vol. III. - No. 48., Whole No. 152 -- Published in "Fort Madison, I. T.", this is technically an Iowa periodical.

The freedom and liberty of the press should at all times be guarded against violence, and we predict that if such an act of outrage is permitted to be passed over, then indeed we may bid adieu to our sacred liberties.

This one is from an LDS publication which still stands, the Deseret News, Wed., September 23, 1857., No. 29. Vol. VII -- Published in SLC, Utah.

We are united in virtue and truth, and we set hell at defiance, and all her agents. Adieu.

This is another one that predates the formation of the LDS Church. This is from the Western Review, November, 1819, Vol. I. No. 4 -- Published in Lexington, Ky.

Hence the inundation of those barbarous hordes, who, issuing from the mountains of the north, bade adieu to their barren abodes and destroyed every thing in their progress towards more genial climes, until they were themselves destroyed.

This is a letter from a Mormon that was published in the Morning Chronicle, Tuesday June 21, 1842, Vol. 1. - No. 266. -- Published out of Pittsburgh. Interesting side note (at least to me). The cover price was "2 cents."

So, adieu to that "Document" for the present; I shall notice the "Book of Mormon," and "Book of Doctrine and Covenants," referred to in "Mormonism Exposed."

JOHN E. PAGE,

From the Pittsburgh Daily Gazette and Advertiser, Friday Morning, June 13, 1845, Vol. XII. No. 266.

Adieu till then. D. N. W.

This one is from the Christian Baptist, February 7, 1825, Vol. II No. 7 -- Published out of Buffaloe, Brooke Co., Va, this also predates the formation of the LDS Church. I believe this may have been a Cambelite publication.

[â?¦] returned the compliment by pitying him, and after a few ceremonies and compliments we bade adieu, The editor of the Luminary also published some threats of what they are going to do with me; but as yet they have attempted nothing that has seen the light....

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Does anyone here have access to edit the FAIR wiki? If so, would you mind updating the article on "adieu" with a few of these? I ran into the critisism, and provided the FAIR wiki info, but it didn't seem to convince the person. So, I then went on the war-path and spent more time than I should have utilizing "Uncle" Dale's site (BTW, if I haven't thanked you lately UD... Thank You!). Whoever does edit it -- if someone does -- please make sure to provide a link to UD's site (solomonspaulding...).

Thanks.

Doc

The purpose of the FAIR WIKI is to give short concise answers to questions often asked about the Church. It is not necessarily encyclopedic in purpose. You might want to email Greg Smith and ask him to put a link to UD's info in the More information section. You can contact him through this form.

http://www.fairlds.org/contact.php

Larry P

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Doc

The purpose of the FAIR WIKI is to give short concise answers to questions often asked about the Church. It is not necessarily encyclopedic in purpose. You might want to email Greg Smith and ask him to put a link to UD's info in the More information section. You can contact him through this form.

http://www.fairlds.org/contact.php

Larry P

Thank you Larry.

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I went into the FAIR list and passed on your post to them.

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It's got black eyes, lifeless eyes, like a doll's eyes.

I got no spit.

I went into the FAIR list and passed on your post to them.

Thank you Charity. I really appreciate it. I emailed Greg Smith a link to this (via the FAIR contact page Larry hooked up), so hopefully between that, and you contacting the FAIR list, someone will make use of the few hours I spent with glazed eyes at Uncle Dale's wonderland.

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The "adieu' argument is just about the silliest Book of Mormon argument ever invented.

The silliest is Shiz's headless push up objection.

:P

Six

It took me off-guard as the person who brought it up is an otherwise intelligent and even-handing individual. Yet, he sincerely thought (prior to the post in my OP) that it was a valid point of contention and evidence against the authenticity of the BoM and Josephâ??s prophetic ability.

I guess it is still a criticism that is valid to some, and hopefully these contemporary newspaper cites will help some to realize that it really isnâ??t a problem at all.

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Farewell and adieu to you, fair Spanish ladies.

Farewell and adieu, you ladies of Spain.

For we've received orders for to sail back to Boston.

And so nevermore shall we see you again.

Didn't Joseph Smith ever see Jaws?

Hey was Prophet's Mate on the HMS Suprise with Russell Crowe and Paul Bettany. :P

(Obscure movie reference to the movie Master and Commander: Far Side of the World based on the books by Patrick O'Brian....the song is sung during the movie.....dang I should have just not posted if it was going to take three lines to explain that reference).

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A lot more French words exist in the French edition's of the Book of Mormon.

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And not to mention that good bye, and adieu have different connotations. Adieu adds to a farewell a wish that God is with them...it would be similar to the English farewell God be with you.

The Spanish Adios has the same meaning as the French Adieu.

Different connotation? No, exactly the same, actually:

Good-bye = contraction of "God be with you" (or perhaps "God by ye")

- American Heritage Dictionary (or any other)

Deities are not just hiding in the names of our months and days. They're everywhere. :P

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