SCOTUS Decision: Ban on "Talk" Conversion Therapy is Unconstitutional

[webbles]

21 hours ago, Analytics said:

Women and girls have a right to be left alone. A woman shouldn't have to establish her sex to strangers simply because they think she looks masculine. Suppose someone reports her, she produces identification, and the encounter ends with an apology. She has nevertheless been scrutinized and made to justify her presence while simply using the restroom. What prevents that from happening again and again and again?

But wasn't that scrutiny always happening?  If someone before 2013 walked into a bathroom and didn't look correct for that bathroom, didn't people scrutinize them?  I've accidentally walked into women's bathrooms and I was definitely scrutinized and even mocked by the girls in there.  If you look too feminine in a male bathroom or too masculine in a female bathroom, people will react to it.  I've heard of people going to the employees and telling them that someone of the wrong gender is in a bathroom.  So, I think people have always had to establish their sex.  That was the norm of society.

[Analytics]

1 hour ago, webbles said:

But wasn't that scrutiny always happening?  If someone before 2013 walked into a bathroom and didn't look correct for that bathroom, didn't people scrutinize them?  I've accidentally walked into women's bathrooms and I was definitely scrutinized and even mocked by the girls in there.  If you look too feminine in a male bathroom or too masculine in a female bathroom, people will react to it.  I've heard of people going to the employees and telling them that someone of the wrong gender is in a bathroom.  So, I think people have always had to establish their sex.  That was the norm of society.

I'm not so sure, and that type of behavior isn’t exactly what I was talking about. Here is all of my personal experience.

Once, my wife was having a birthday party at a busy bar/restaurant. This was about 15 years ago. One of our guests grabbed my arm and said, “Analytics! You’ve got to see this!” She then proceeded to try and drag me into the women’s restroom. I refused to go, but she absolutely insisted and refused to give up. Finally so as to not make a scene, I reluctantly followed her in. Everybody stopped what they were doing and look at me. My host said, “It’s all right everyone! He’s with me!” With that, everybody exhaled and ignored me. She showed me there was a whiteboard in the restroom, and somebody had drawn an extravagant birthday message for my wife. I spent a tenth of a second admiring it, and got the heck out.

Perhaps 5 years ago, I was at a crowded downtown venue, and there was a very long line for the women’s room, and a very short line for the men’s. A woman who was an unambiguously cisgender woman got into the short line for the men’s room. She waited her turn, used the toilet, washed her hands, and got out. Everybody there felt quite uncomfortable, but everyone very deliberately ignored her.

About a year after that, I was in exactly the same situation, but this time a woman asked me for permission to use the men’s room, because she had to go very badly and couldn’t wait in the women’s line. I gave her permission to use the toilet. She went in, took care of business, and got out. Again, everyone ignored her.

Likewise, when Lily Contino used the women’s restroom in Disneyworld, everyone politely ignored her and nobody made a stink about it until her videos went viral, and even then, the main objection was her videoing other people in the restroom and not her presence there.

Compare that to the videos Smac collects that show people whipping out there cellphones and recording themselves saying, “I just saw a tranny go into the women’s restroom, and I’m going to confront them on video when they come out!” One person in his collection actually flew across the Atlantic Ocean in order to generate this type of content, and when she got impatient waiting for the person she was stalking to use the restroom, decided to confront her in a hallway with the accusatory question, “You’re a man! What bathroom to you use???!!!!”  That isn’t healthy.