Gray Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 On 4/7/2017 at 0:57 PM, CV75 said: Of course we subjectively choose our various tools in the approaches we take in dealing with what we call the world around us. You choose to apply historical discipline to Jesus and a theological discipline to “God is existence.” In either case, you seem to hold that God is existence and persists independently of your presence, and that history and other sciences are subsets of existence. This is a melding of scientific and theological mental processes. I use scientific tools to answer scientific question. If Jesus was a historical person, his life is a matter of historical inquiry. If Jesus is the Son of God, that's a matter of theological inquiry. History has nothing to say about it. On 4/7/2017 at 0:57 PM, CV75 said: There is no difference in the locus of the mental processes driving your choice of tools: all such subjectivity takes place in your head. To you, both the hallucination and the hippo are equally real until their respective driving mental processes are redirected. Sometimes you have a second thought, "It's just a hallucination," and sometimes you may question what you're seeing, or whether you're seeing a hippo. According to what you’ve said, because it is theologically based, the notion that “God is existence” is more like a hallucination, and because it is scientifically based, the conclusion that “Jesus is not historical” is more like the hippo that isn’t there, despite its persistence elsewhere independently of your presence. No, you're still not getting it.
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