Jeff K. Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 (edited) I want now to say a few words on political matters. First, I willsay we are a very religious people; the world knows that; and it was ourreligion that influenced our minds to leave our homes and parents, and inmany instances our companions and children. Are we a political people? Yes, very political indeed. But what party do you belong to or would youvote for? I will tell you whom we will vote for: we will vote for theman who will sustain the principles of civil and religious liberty, theman who knows the most and who has the best heart and brain for astatesman; and we do not care a farthing whether he is a whig, a democrat,a barnburner, a republican, a new light or anything else. These are ourpolitics. If we could have got men to control the affairs of the nationwho had sufficient foresight and forethought to know the results of theirown actions, it would have been better for the nation than it is atpresent. But we are just as we are; no matter what brought about thepresent condition of things. I leave the people to judge whether it isrighteousness or sin that has brought upon the nation the evils it hasbeen called to endure. Of one thing I am sure: God never instituted war;God is not the author of confusion or of war; they are the results of theacts of the children of men. Confusion and war necessarily come as theresults of the foolish acts and policy of men; but they do not comebecause God desires they should come. If the people, generally, wouldturn to the Lord, there would never be any war. Let men turn from theiriniquities and sins, and, instead of being covetous and wicked, turn toGod and seek to promote peace and happiness throughout the land, and warswould cease. We expect to see the day when swords shall be turned intoploughshares, spears into pruning hooks, and when men shall learn war nomore. This is what we want. We are for peace, plenty and happiness toall the human family.Delivered at the tabernacle April 7, 1869It seems the words hold tru over 140 years later.In a contemplative moment, I was wondering if anyone would speculate, given this discourse (and you can read more in the link), how Brigam Young would view todays political spectrum, the way in which the Saints are more a part of society than isolated. The political place of many Saints, the political questions. I see Brigham Young as a great man, indeed had he remained in New England, I do not doubt he would have gained great political power in the US, or remained obscure, meaning the environment makes the leader versus the leader the environment. Who knows.I guess what I am looking for are some interesting imagined quotes, given the context of the discourse, and perhaps some idea of who the contemporary apostles and prophets (including recent ones who have passed away) who might have been of the Brigham Young mold.Purely speculative, though I think some references to his discourses might help bolster an imagined quote or two.Still, its amazing how contemporary old policies can be. Edited July 21, 2011 by Jeff K.
keith_brian Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 In almost the same exact way, it's amazing how the wisdom of Plato remains valid over the years.
Jeff K. Posted July 21, 2011 Author Posted July 21, 2011 (edited) How would Brigham Young respond to this question....Harry Reid, Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman walk into a bar in Salt Lake City, who gets served first? ....... Edited July 21, 2011 by Jeff K.
KevinG Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 How would Brigham Young respond to this question....Harry Reid, Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman walk into a bar in Salt Lake City, who gets served first? .......Subpeona, Soda or Spirits? 2
Pahoran Posted July 22, 2011 Posted July 22, 2011 How would Brigham Young respond to this question....Harry Reid, Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman walk into a bar in Salt Lake City, who gets served first? .......Huntsman. Bartenders like to look after their regular customers.Regards,Pahoran
altersteve Posted July 22, 2011 Posted July 22, 2011 Huntsman. Bartenders like to look after their regular customers.Regards,PahoranThis is the best post. Maybe ever.
Jeff K. Posted July 22, 2011 Author Posted July 22, 2011 (edited) Jeff K., on 21 July 2011 - 10:21 AM, said:How would Brigham Young respond to this question....Harry Reid, Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman walk into a bar in Salt Lake City, who gets served first? .......Romney owns the bar, Huntsman helped change the law to allow the drinks to flow, and Reid was aided in re-election by the alcohol lobby. The bartendar simply throws in the towel and says "Is this a joke? Is it the apocalypse? And is there a difference?" Edited July 22, 2011 by Jeff K.
Xander Posted July 22, 2011 Posted July 22, 2011 Sounds like a socialist to me.Not sure what's so "amazing" about how comments, though.
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