Does Anybody See A Problem With This?

[Jeff K.]

Jeff K., on 06 June 2011 - 01:14 PM, said:

I would disagree. Members of the church tend to seek higher education within the parameters of their society. And the wisdom that exists is derived from trying to do what is best, versus best in one's self interest. I would worry less regarding member participation in the amendment process than you seem to indicate.

I am sure that is correct when referring to Mormons as a whole, or to the majority of them. What I was referring to was a very small and narrow group, who are most vocal and shout loudest in their self-proclaimed aim of "saving the Constitution". Those who are trying their hardest to "save" it are the ones who are doing their best to destroy it, and that is exactly what they would do if they had it their way.

I would like to see the documentation that shows they are "less educated". Unless of course you only have your opinion which like so many things, is possessed by all peoples. There are those who at different times from different political stripes, that considered themselves "saving" the constitution. Latter-day Saints are not unique in that sense, nor is conservative politics.

[zerinus]

I would like to see the documentation that shows they are "less educated". Unless of course you only have your opinion which like so many things, is possessed by all peoples. There are those who at different times from different political stripes, that considered themselves "saving" the constitution. Latter-day Saints are not unique in that sense, nor is conservative politics.

One can be "educated" and very ignorant at the same time.

[Jeff K.]

And one can call anyone ignorant if they disagree with one's opinion, no matter how right they might be.

But the question is whether or not the charge is valid. I would state from your point of view, that the charge is not valid. Conservatives do not automatically become ignorant if they disagree with your stance. There is ample proof that the northern government would have taken an oppressive approach towards the Southern states without worrying about their bankruptcy. Lincoln, while maintaining a middle of the course road, did not have dictatorial powers and probably would not have dissuaded many of the radical republicans from taking aggressive action regardless of the southern economic siutation. And they certainly did not want freed African Americans to migrate north.

Some issues to consider.

[zerinus]

And one can call anyone ignorant if they disagree with one's opinion, no matter how right they might be.

I consider them ignoramuses. I think the give Mormonism a bad name. You are welcome to disagree.

There is ample proof that the northern government would have taken an oppressive approach towards the Southern states without worrying about their bankruptcy. Lincoln, while maintaining a middle of the course road, did not have dictatorial powers and probably would not have dissuaded many of the radical republicans from taking aggressive action regardless of the southern economic siutation. And they certainly did not want freed African Americans to migrate north.

Some issues to consider.

I am not so interested in the slavery or Civil War issues as I am with the Constitutional one. I am more concerned with those who bang the drum of "saving the constitution," and mistake "conspiracy theories" with "secret combinations".

[Hestia]

I consider them ignoramuses. I think the give Mormonism a bad name. You are welcome to disagree.

And with that the thread has officially gone downhill.