Marriage Eternal For 1St Century Jews?

[Mike Richards]

Thanks for all the replies.

I'm sure I could save some money just using online stuff, but I can get through a book a lot faster if I have a printed copy.

Volgadon--let us know when you've finished your blog post.

[volgadon]

Thanks for all the replies.

I'm sure I could save some money just using online stuff, but I can get through a book a lot faster if I have a printed copy.

Volgadon--let us know when you've finished your blog post.

I've saved several grand, actually.

Anyway, I'm almost done with my blog post. In it I'm also addressing the Enoch quote.

[volgadon]

My blogpost is up.

[Mike Richards]

I enjoyed your blog post. Thanks for doing it. I look forward to your (future) post on Jewish sources that do indicate a belief in eternal marriage.

[volgadon]

I enjoyed your blog post. Thanks for doing it. I look forward to your (future) post on Jewish sources that do indicate a belief in eternal marriage.

Thanks. I'm almost done writing about one of them.

[volgadon]

In the future, God will be seated in His great academy, and seated before him will be the righteous of the world, they and their wives, and their sons, and their daughters, and their manservants, and their maidservants, their household needs will be taken care of for them. As it says: "And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out My spirit, etc.," and "And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids, etc. (Joel 3:1-2)"

"Rise up, ye women that are at ease. (Isa. 32:9)"

-Seder Eliyahu Rabbah 4:19.

Seder Eliyahu Rabbah purports to be a series of instructions on the history and destiny of the world, given by Elijah the prophet to R. Anan, a Babylonian amora.

God presides over his heavenly academy (beit-midrash). The righteous participate in its study sessions. They are organised according to the same social units they had on earth. The family (or rather household to a modern audience) still exists as an individual unit. Father, mother, children, and household servants. The organisation of the heavenly family may be identical to the earthly one but there are some important differences in other aspects.

All equally participate in God's academy. The prooftexts from Joel and Isaiah show that even female servant, a low rung on the social ladder, will receive an outpouring of God's spirit. To eliminate distractions from Torah study with God, all needs are provided for, presumably by the angels, since the Seder Eliyahu depicts them as less privileged than the righteous.

All in all, a remarkable picture.

[Mike Richards]

In the future, God will be seated in His great academy, and seated before him will be the righteous of the world, they and their wives, and their sons, and their daughters, and their manservants, and their maidservants, their household needs will be taken care of for them. As it says: "And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out My spirit, etc.," and "And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids, etc. (Joel 3:1-2)"

"Rise up, ye women that are at ease. (Isa. 32:9)"

-Seder Eliyahu Rabbah 4:19.

Seder Eliyahu Rabbah purports to be a series of instructions on the history and destiny of the world, given by Elijah the prophet to R. Anan, a Babylonian amora.

God presides over his heavenly academy (beit-midrash). The righteous participate in its study sessions. They are organised according to the same social units they had on earth. The family (or rather household to a modern audience) still exists as an individual unit. Father, mother, children, and household servants. The organisation of the heavenly family may be identical to the earthly one but there are some important differences in other aspects.

All equally participate in God's academy. The prooftexts from Joel and Isaiah show that even female servant, a low rung on the social ladder, will receive an outpouring of God's spirit. To eliminate distractions from Torah study with God, all needs are provided for, presumably by the angels, since the Seder Eliyahu depicts them as less privileged than the righteous.

All in all, a remarkable picture.

I agree, very remarkable. It seems that the "the righteous of the world" refers to the man/father of the household/family. Does the text address either of the following questions (or do you know of common understanding/beliefs that answer): Are the members of the righteous man's household/family the same as those with whom he spent his mortal life (I'm presuming this is a post-mortal scene)? Does the righteousness of the other members of the household have any effect on their participation in this spiritual outpouring, or is it exclusively dependent on the righteous man?

[volgadon]

I agree, very remarkable. It seems that the "the righteous of the world" refers to the man/father of the household/family.

Absolutely correct.

Does the text address either of the following questions (or do you know of common understanding/beliefs that answer): Are the members of the righteous man's household/family the same as those with whom he spent his mortal life (I'm presuming this is a post-mortal scene)?

It would appear that they are the same. The text uses the possesive.

Does the righteousness of the other members of the household have any effect on their participation in this spiritual outpouring, or is it exclusively dependent on the righteous man?

Very good question, but one that the text doesn't bother to answer. My guess would be that their righteousness is reflected in his. Much like the biblical story of Korah's rebellion and punishment.