Religious education, Public Education

[Jeff K.]

Not that I am quibbling here, but the students did not have to go to the White House and sing for the Easter Egg roll. Inside a classroom you are an involuntary audience.

[thesometimesaint]

Nathair:

I'm a moderately conservative liberal and have no love for politicians of any political stripe.

[LeSellers]

CFR, because I'd like to see the statistics. I personally think most teachers are conservative but are represented by liberal unions.

If you said "radical socialist unions", you'd be closer.

Still, teachers, like most government employees tend to be very much more socialist than the general populace. How do you suppose those union leaders keep getting chosen?

Tuesday, May 12, 2009

Party Affiliation of Teachers and State Employees

Tomorrow we're going to have our dreary new numbers out on Bev Perdue. One of the things we did on this poll was break down her approval by whether respondents were public school teachers or state employees.

You can see how she did with those groups tomorrow but for today I thought it was interesting to look at the party identification of those folks.

Among teachers we surveyed 56% were Democrats, 36% Republicans, and 8% independents.

For other state employees it was 56% Democrats, 33% Republicans, and 10% independents.

The breakdown we're finding for the state as a whole right now is 49% Democrats and 35% Republicans so they are, as you would expect, more Democratic than the population at large but not perhaps as monolithically left leaning as might have been anticipated.

Party Affiliation of Teachers and Other Bureaucrats

These numbers are form North Carolina. The data are from 2009.

Lehi

[frankenstein]

My younger brother took a class wherein a tenured teacher would lecture on how evil George Bush was and how good socialism is... which had nothing to do with the class. When people complained, his response was, "I get paid either way." He tested on the book but wasted everyone's class time with liberal indoctrination. I've heard of high school teachers doing the same.

Regardless, the statistics indicate the vast majority of teachers and professors are liberal.

I had teachers in public schools who - based on their personal religion, which they forcible imposed on others - would not let students participate in District Authorized activities, talk about indoctrination.

I went to private school, wherein the Principal put me a choke hold and lifting me off the ground, he did this because I told him it was funny that a kid screamed, I was about 7 -8. My sisters where told they were going to hell for wearing makeup.

The Music instructor would not say the pledge of allegiance.

[Mars]

I had teachers in Texas public schools who didn't mind taking a few cracks at Mormonism while talking directly to me - in front of the whole class.

Eh. It happens.

[frankenstein]

I had teachers in Texas public schools who didn't mind taking a few cracks at Mormonism while talking directly to me - in front of the whole class.

Eh. It happens.

oh, I forgot to add, my American History book in Texas said "Joseph Smith was lynched as a horse thief"

[Jeff K.]

Teacher at my son's school who was taken to court because he was so negative towards relgion, calling it among other things, a salve for stupid people. One student finally taped him and it was so outrageous as to require him to take "sensitivity classes" after the court had found him guilty of violating the student's first amendment rights. IN general my students are unaware of my religious beliefs until the last day of school. Nor are they aware of my political slant. I take a certain amount of pride in being able to teach without making my own philosophical positions the platform for their education.

[Mars]

oh, I forgot to add, my American History book in Texas said "Joseph Smith was lynched as a horse thief"

~sigh~

I take a certain amount of pride in being able to teach without making my own philosophical positions the platform for their education.

I hope you're as successful as you think you are.

[thesometimesaint]

Jeff K.:

He was Definitely off base, but I learned that religion was the opiate of the masses in the ninth grade in of all places Huntsville; Alabama of the 1960's. But then we were studying Karl Marx.

[Jeff K.]

~sigh~

I hope you're as successful as you think you are.

Half my students swear I am Catholic, some think I am a Muslim, more than a few believe I am a communist and probably agnostic, some see me as a liberal and an advocate of FDR and Keynes, others think I like Ayn Rand and Hayek (not Selma).

I am apparently much more sucessful than you can imagine.

[Mordecai]

School choice would break the back of the teacher's union, allowing parents to have teachers, like some of the examples you guys are listing, fired. That should make everyone in this thread happy (unless they are bad teachers and union leaders). If you watch Waiting for Superman, you find that in one area (New York, I think?), they tried to fix the schools by ending tenure (which is the biggest problem). They did so by offering the teachers the opportunity to make six figure salaries, provided they were effective. The teacher's union stepped in preventing a vote by the teachers, they were so threatened. All to protect bad teachers who are destroying children's lives. The bad teachers are breaking the motivation and heart of would-be good students.

[Mordecai]

Duplicate [ugh]

[Mordecai]

Duplicate post. This server is acting funny today.

[Mordecai]

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/illinois_oks_lifo_death_41IsYBb02j5MVBh8Zjm6SJ

This is good news. This helps resolve the major problems we've had with the Teacher's Union... in Illinois at least. What a corrupt country we have that puts bad teachers above students. Each bad teacher is teaching 30 students a year, wasting their time and breaking down their hopes for a better future. Disgusting.