Man, The lineal and literal offspring of deity

[Loran Howard Blood]

That some supernatural force(God) is required to make it work

You believe then, STS, that the laws, rules, principles, and dynamics of the natural world (physics, chemistry, biology) do not require the creative activity, maintenance and intelligent organizing and structuring power of God ("design" by any other name) for either their existence or their specific structure and function?

Which is to say, you believe that much, if not most of the natural world and all actually existing biological systems within exist and have their being independent of God and his creative/organizing/designing/structuring activity and power?

God is not required or relevant either to their structure (design) or their function (how they work).

[LDS Guy 1986]

LDS Guy 1986:

You can not put God(The Supernatural) into a test tube and call it science. Science is neither theistic or atheistic. Science is silent on the issue of God. I don't know how many different ways there are to say it. But theist as well as the atheist can not use their beliefs about God, or the lack of, to support science.

It is equivalent to claiming Bingo at a Poker game.

Lets say that I combine simple Hydrogen with simple Oxygen a thousand times and water come out. IF a Miniature Flying Pink Elephant pops out on the thousand and first time. Chances are real good that it was that I did something wrong, and not God that did it. Further IF I were to go to a chemistry symposium and claim that God did it.

I don't disagree with you, the problem is the propagated Theory of Evolution is filled (or as other here have said injected) with atheism (and they don't even have support for the atheistic claims they inject into it) so it is NOT science, that is all that I am saying.

The problem is religious theory is being taught as science, without any opposing theory being presented for consideration across the nation in publicly funded schools.

[Loran Howard Blood]

LDS Guy 1986:

You can not put God(The Supernatural) into a test tube and call it science. Science is neither theistic or atheistic. Science is silent on the issue of God.

In a purely theoretical sense, this should be the case, yes. In a real socio-historical sense, it has never been the case. The problem here is, of course, scientism, which is the cultural/philosophical vehicle upon which science, in this sense, has all too often run roughshod over everything it considers below its lofty dignity.

I don't know how many different ways there are to say it. But theist as well as the atheist can not use their beliefs about God, or the lack of, to support science.

If all scientific truth is, ultimately, a part of the gospel, then this assertion makes little sense, from a gospel perspective. There is nothing wrong, in any conceivable way, of seeing the creative, organizing and artistic hand of God in the cosmic constants and in the unimaginably complex symmetry, tuning, and calibration of the principles and laws governing the cosmos. The same must be said of the fantastic, inconceivably complex coincidence inhering in the structure, function, interrelatedness, interconnectedness, redundancy, systemic order and finely organized architecture of organic systems, from the tissues of the body to the biochemical and molecular levels.

There are some Latter Day Saints here who appear to be trying to have it both ways, the reason for which is becoming ever more lost on me the longer discussions such as these go on.