Scrupulousity and Perfectionism among LDS

[Tacenda]

2 hours ago, Injeun said:

You aren't a victim. You are an imposter, posing as a latter day saint so as to undermine the Church's values and lead the unsuspecting away. Your little story about the Hawaiian wedding was a complete fabrication to peddle your doctrines. The giveaway was painting your obedient Mother as a clueless ditz, and Church values as an impediment to your viewing the true beauty of deviancy. Along with your previous posts, it became clear to me that you are playing people. You talk the talk, but you don't walk the walk. It is a contemptable charade. Are you working alone at this or part of a team?

Drama much, lol!!!!!

[Injeun]

2 hours ago, manol said:

The rules of this forum prohibit "insulting language" and "personal attacks". 

The rules don't say "no insulting language and no personal attacks unless you think you're defending the church; or unless you think you're right and they're wrong; or unless you think that's the best way to get your point across."

The rules of this forum prohibit "insulting language" and "personal attacks" and do not make exceptions.

Why try reason when you can resort to rules. What I said needed saying. If you guys want to cover for him/her, knock yourselves out. One thing is certain, you know where I'm coming from.

[manol]

5 minutes ago, Injeun said:

Why try reason when you can resort to rules. What I said needed saying. If you guys want to cover for him/her, knock yourselves out. One thing is certain, you know where I'm coming from.

You aren't a victim.

[MustardSeed]

My mom is incredible.  🥰 

also look at this cute sugar loaf- it’s got no acid, only sweetness.  Like my mama. 

[Rain]

1 hour ago, MustardSeed said:

My mom is incredible.  🥰 

also look at this cute sugar loaf- it’s got no acid, only sweetness.  Like my mama. 

You're pretty incredible yourself.  

[The Nehor]

6 hours ago, teddyaware said:

Most assuredly that day is going to come. And when it does, and all of if makes perfect sense we’ll beyond the grasp of your present imagination, it will be a time of great self reflection as you process why some with even greater challenges than your own somehow managed to maintain unshakable faith and a perfect brightness of hope unto the bestowal great eternal rewards.

I will self-reflect that I should have made different choices based on information I didn’t have? When people blame themselves for not making a better choice in their own past because ‘they should have known’ stuff they did not know other people (correctly) tell them they are being unfair to themselves yet at eternal judgment the rules are somehow very different.

Enjoy your exaltation.

[The Nehor]

2 hours ago, Injeun said:

Why try reason when you can resort to rules. What I said needed saying. If you guys want to cover for him/her, knock yourselves out. One thing is certain, you know where I'm coming from.

And who you are.

[BlueDreams]

18 hours ago, teddyaware said:

Most assuredly that day is going to come. And when it does, and all of if makes perfect sense we’ll beyond the grasp of your present imagination, it will be a time of great self reflection as you process why some with even greater challenges than your own somehow managed to maintain unshakable faith and a perfect brightness of hope unto the bestowal great eternal rewards.

Nehor can (and does) respond for himself. 

But I'm deeply disturbed by this response. Seriously, how do you think this helps someone?

I had just finished 2 of the article Calm started this thread with and it talks explicitly about the unhealthy effects of a perfectionism that insists "perfect" responses and engagement from others on people's religious engagement. A "faith" that is fueled more by shame and fear than love and invitation. And when I read this I hear more the former. 

I have gone through my fair share of difficulties. I have also met people with greater difficulties (or at least different ones). Personally, I have been able to deepen my faith, including in times that things have not worked out as I assumed they would, often from spiritual experiences that led me to said assumptions. What those gave me was not a sense of superiority or betterness to those who don't or can't. It gave me a sense of humility, deeper care, and empathy for just how difficult it is to go through heartache of any sort. When I meet people I see as doing so much with situations I fear I would crumple under, I see that same empathy, humility, and kindness in them. For me, God does not bring me to criticism of others struggle or pain. God brings me to compassion. 

 

 

With luv, 

BD 

Edited March 17 by BlueDreams

[The Nehor]

2 hours ago, BlueDreams said:

But I'm deeply disturbed by this response. Seriously, how do you think this helps someone?

Some people resentfully envy the people in the great and spacious building and hope their ending will be mocking the mockers when the building falls with a chorus of “told you so”.

Edited March 17 by The Nehor

[ttribe]

20 hours ago, teddyaware said:

Most assuredly that day is going to come. And when it does, and all of if makes perfect sense we’ll beyond the grasp of your present imagination, it will be a time of great self reflection as you process why some with even greater challenges than your own somehow managed to maintain unshakable faith and a perfect brightness of hope unto the bestowal great eternal rewards.

 

19 hours ago, Injeun said:

You aren't a victim. You are an imposter, posing as a latter day saint so as to undermine the Church's values and lead the unsuspecting away. Your little story about the Hawaiian wedding was a complete fabrication to peddle your doctrines. The giveaway was painting your obedient Mother as a clueless ditz, and Church values as an impediment to your viewing the true beauty of deviancy. Along with your previous posts, it became clear to me that you are playing people. You talk the talk, but you don't walk the walk. It is a contemptable charade. Are you working alone at this or part of a team?

And here we have the Self-Righteousness Twins. It's always such a joy when the hellfire and damnation folks wade into the conversation.

[Senator]

22 hours ago, Injeun said:

You are an imposter, posing as a latter day saint so as to undermine the Church's values and lead the unsuspecting away.

Funny thing is I had the same suspicions with your persona and rhetoric.

22 hours ago, Injeun said:

Your little story about the Hawaiian wedding was a complete fabrication to peddle your doctrines. 

Which doctrines would that be?

The doctrine of the waters of Mormon, to "mourn with those that mourn, and comfort those that stand in need of comfort"?

or

The doctrine of compassion exhibited by the Samaritan? A figure, by the way, which was purposefully crafted as one considered filthy and ostracized. (and a real fabricated story)

or

The doctrine of the sinless Son of God dinning with "sinners".( oh, to be a fly on the wall)  An optic that was an affront to religiously pious of the day, but nevertheless was one of the greatest empirical demonstrations of a "God that so loved the world(not just Zion) that he have his Only Begotten Son?

Those doctrines?

Edited March 17 by Senator