NC Baptist preacher supports rape for women in shorts

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4 hours ago, The Nehor said:

Because he got caught?

Exactly.  Unless I heard him describing his change of heart and it was impressive, I wouldn't believe he was sorry for anything other than being called out on his misogyny.  

[The Nehor]

35 minutes ago, bluebell said:

Exactly.  Unless I heard him describing his change of heart and it was impressive, I wouldn't believe he was sorry for anything other than being called out on his misogyny.  

And he would have got away with it too if it wasn’t for those meddling wokeists and their dog.

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16 hours ago, The Nehor said:

And he would have got away with it too if it wasn’t for those meddling wokeists and their dog.

But beware the totalitarians that want to use the force of law to impose their vision of social justice utopia. Otherwise there will be a rash of riots, burnings and violence in various enclaves here in America and around the world.

[The Nehor]

34 minutes ago, longview said:

But beware the totalitarians that want to use the force of law to impose their vision of social justice utopia. Otherwise there will be a rash of riots, burnings and violence in various enclaves here in America and around the world.

But enough about Christians.

[3DOP]

I was an Independent Baptist preacher until 1989. I hardly remember who I was, but that could have been me. He apologized and asked forgiveness. No forgiveness? He said he was wrong. We still need to hate him? C'mon. Please. Nobody is wrong about everything. These people are emotional and loud and voice themselves in extreme ways. But you and I agree with him about mere modesty...and he is backing off of his original statement that he knows is unacceptable. Give him thirty or forty years to wise up...or maybe even one year. Its 2024. He said it in 2023. These men don't get a good formation. I didn't. You yell and scream to a crowd that says "Amen" because you and they are outraged at immodesty, or smoking, or drinking, or whatever vice. I don't want to be back in that place of high pitched emotion where you are expected to get people into a fever. Thankfully I never said anything like that that I can recall. But I understand how that could come out of a mouth of a person that in retrospect has regrets, will never say it (or believe it) again, and who could be a very good neighbor.  

[Calm]

20 minutes ago, 3DOP said:

He apologized and asked forgiveness.

But what for?  A sign that just says “I am wrong” doesn’t say what he was wrong about. 
 

I don’t even have a problem with forgiving him without an apology as we forgive for ourselves more than the person who needs forgiveness, but I can’t accept an apology unless I know what it actually means. 

[3DOP]

6 minutes ago, Calm said:

But what for?  A sign that just says “I am wrong” doesn’t say what he was wrong about. 
 

I don’t even have a problem with forgiving him without an apology as we forgive for ourselves more than the person who needs forgiveness, but I can’t accept an apology unless I know what it actually means. 

I thought it would have been for his inflammatory and unacceptable remarks in that sermon. But maybe it is for something else? In that event, we at least know that he can say he was wrong about something.

I remember having an argument with a good friend long, long ago. It was at our Independent Baptist college that we were attending. I can't remember what we are discussing, but I made a point, and he said, "You are right, I am wrong." I loved that. Not because he said I was right, but that he could acknowledge that he was wrong. It has shaped my life. I have told my children about it, and I hope I have emulated my dear friend, who I will never forget. Admitting wrong is in my opinion, when sincere, from heaven. I was moved to want to forgive this man under discussion, with whom I could identify, because it seemed similar to what another independent Baptist friend said to me.

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[The Nehor]

Okay, now I’ve watched the whole video of this preacher for context and it is worse than I originally thought. Hooray.

So he hears there are more women wearing shorts than there are wearing pants and dresses combined so he goes out to the park and starts counting. So he is going out and evaluating women’s clothing choices and counting/perving on all the women going about their day.

Then he announces that if a woman wearing shorts is raped and he is on the jury he is going to exonerate the rapist. The shorts qualify as incitement to rape. When explaining this he says that “a man is a man”. In other words expecting self-control from men not to rape a woman in shorts is unreasonable. It is also telling on himself. That is how he feels when he sees women in shorts and he is generalizing it to everyone.

Now go back to this predator deliberately going out to ‘count’ all the women wearing shorts.

Put him on ALL THE WATCHLISTS!

Edited February 26, 2024 by The Nehor

[The Nehor]

2 hours ago, 3DOP said:

I was an Independent Baptist preacher until 1989. I hardly remember who I was, but that could have been me. He apologized and asked forgiveness. No forgiveness? He said he was wrong. We still need to hate him? C'mon. Please. Nobody is wrong about everything. These people are emotional and loud and voice themselves in extreme ways. But you and I agree with him about mere modesty...and he is backing off of his original statement that he knows is unacceptable. Give him thirty or forty years to wise up...or maybe even one year. Its 2024. He said it in 2023. These men don't get a good formation. I didn't. You yell and scream to a crowd that says "Amen" because you and they are outraged at immodesty, or smoking, or drinking, or whatever vice. I don't want to be back in that place of high pitched emotion where you are expected to get people into a fever. Thankfully I never said anything like that that I can recall. But I understand how that could come out of a mouth of a person that in retrospect has regrets, will never say it (or believe it) again, and who could be a very good neighbor.  

I recommend watching the video. This wasn’t hyperbolic emotional rhetoric that got carried away.