Need prayers.

[DonBradley]

Also, it's like 7:20 AM in Portugal? I'm wondering if now that it's day time you can go someplace else for a while, while things cool down in the house you've been at.

[Dario_M]

9 minutes ago, DonBradley said:

Dario,

I'm concerned. I just prayed for you and will continue to pray that you will safe, both physically and emotionally.

I'm renting a room. The people in this house didn't liked me from the beginning. The moment i moved in here a month ago i asked a woman who lives here as well how the microwave in this house works (super complicated) she just slamed the door in my face.  Now there's another guy that have moved here recentely as well who is all over the place. He's awake the whole night every night and makes so much noice. Since this guy is here for nearly a week now i just had such a bad sleep.

 

 

9 minutes ago, DonBradley said:

Are you physically safe right now? Your grandmother kicked you out, so where are you living now? Does your family know your concerns about your safety?

Yeah...my grandma kicked me out. 

No i can't tell my parents. Don't even dare to tell them. They allready have a lot of stress on the moment. So...i'm alone with this problem. I told them that everything was going great here. And they where so happy! How can them about this? 

9 minutes ago, DonBradley said:

Who do you have in Charneca that you might be able to turn to?

Nobody in Charneca. But my parents live close to Char. So at least i have that. 

9 minutes ago, DonBradley said:

If you want to chat and you're on Facebook, you can message me: https://www.facebook.com/onandagus1

Don

Oh thanks. You're so nice. I don't really wanna bother you though. About 20 minutes it will be 8:00 on this side. I guess it will be ..uhm... 00:00 then in Utah. So you will probebly go to sleep soon. But thanks anyway Don. 🫂 This night has been a little better with you guys. I will try to get some sleep today. But i'm sure that will mess up my whole sleep ritme. 

[Dario_M]

22 minutes ago, DonBradley said:

Also, it's like 7:20 AM in Portugal? I'm wondering if now that it's day time you can go someplace else for a while, while things cool down in the house you've been at.

Yes. I actually wanna try to get some sleep i didn't had any. But on the other hand....maybe your idea is not that bad though.🫂  You're correct about the time here indeed. Am i also correct about your time actually? 

 

[Dario_M]

33 minutes ago, DonBradley said:

Who were you fighting with in the house you're at? Was it a physical fight? Do you think your parents would you let temporarily stay with them? 

Sorry for peppering you with questions--I just want to understand so we can make sure you're okay!!

Don

Ooh no problem no problem. Thanks for your nice message.💙

It was a nasty fight let me tell you. And i was also not an innocent part of that fight i must admit. I'm okay for the moment. I was just so angry but also scared. And they where angry too. Against me. 😭

Edited August 4 by Dario_M

[Calm]

You have two bishops available to you that might be able to help.  One from the ward you attend and the other from the new ward for your current city.  Maybe they know of a different place you could live?  I believe money is tight for you (you have said something in the past I believe), so maybe you can’t afford it, especially if you are paying already for this place, but maybe there is someone who can just help for a bit.  Have you talked to your bishop (either one) about your situation?

Edited August 4 by Calm

[Dario_M]

Btw... if someone here is planning to rent a room in the future... please don't. It's a disaster. This is my second try and it's again not positive. If you're young and you life with your parents...stay there if you can, and if they allow you to stay....just....don't move please. 🙏

Edited August 4 by Dario_M

[Calm]

1 minute ago, Dario_M said:

Btw... if someone here is planning to rent a room in the future... please don't. It's a disaster. This is my second try and it's again not positive. If you're young and you life with your parents...stay there if you can, and if they allow you to stay....just....don't move please. 🙏

Look, your parents want you to be safe.  It would hurt them more for you to be harmed than to be disappointed all isn’t as good in your life as you told them.  Don’t lock yourself into not asking them for help.  Not saying that is the only way (talk to your bishops), just keep it as a possibility in your mind.  The spirit can better inspire you if you don’t make up your mind first you aren’t ever going to do something.  You could try to think about a way you could stay with them that could make their life easier so it’s a win win for both of you.  Is there something they want to do that you could help with, for example.  Even if you have health issues that limit you (are you feeling physically better lately?), maybe there are still things you could help out with a little at a time.

[DonBradley]

Dario,

I'm up late but headed to bed. It's after 1:00 AM in Utah.

That gives me a better idea of the situation - thanks!

I think you will be okay. Just remember that if things are really getting dangerous enough that you fear for your safety, then you should go someplace else and let others know how bad the situation is. 

Talking with a bishop, as others have suggested, is a great idea.

Get some sleep. And, when you can,  try to mend the situation with your housemates.

Don

[DonBradley]

Just now, Calm said:

Look, your parents want you to be safe.  It would hurt them more for you to be harmed than to be disappointed all isn’t as good in your life as you told them.  

Bingo! Yes! Exactly!

Remember that they would want you to be safe far more than they would care about other issues.

[Dario_M]

7 minutes ago, Calm said:

You have two bishops available to you that might be able to help.  One from the ward you attend and the other from the new ward for your current city.

Yeah true. You're right about that. Maybe the other bishop speaks English as well. I also do have a stake president in Miratejo. 

7 minutes ago, Calm said:

 Maybe they know of a different place you could live?

 

They offered me help in the beginning. But i don't really wanna go on a mission...so i said "no thanks."

And i can not imagine how they can help me otherwise. 

This bounds to work. And i find that my parents may help me a bit as well. They haven't even visit me in all the time i'm here.

Another thing... i'm so tired of moving constantly.  

7 minutes ago, Calm said:

 I believe money is tight for you

Uhm...no actually.... money is  not really the problem. The problem is the mentality of the people in this household. It's getting on my nerves and after a week of bad sleep i just have lossed my temper a bit last night. 

7 minutes ago, Calm said:

(you have said something in the past I believe),

Did i? Oh wait...yes it is true that i don't work on the moment. 

7 minutes ago, Calm said:

so maybe you can’t afford it, especially if you are paying already for this place, but maybe there is someone who can just help for a bit.  Have you talked to your bishop (either one) about your situation?

One of the 2 doesn't spreak English. I've tried to have a conversation with him once. But it didn't really worked out that well. I struggle to much with my Portuguess you see. The other bishop i don't know. But my stake president speaks perfectly English. He's from Mexico. One time he helped me out. When i needed to go to the hospital. So he's a nice guy. 👍

[Dario_M]

13 minutes ago, Calm said:

Look, your parents want you to be safe.  It would hurt them more for you to be harmed than to be disappointed all isn’t as good in your life as you told them.  Don’t lock yourself into not asking them for help.  Not saying that is the only way (talk to your bishops), just keep it as a possibility in your mind.  The spirit can better inspire you if you don’t make up your mind first you aren’t ever going to do something.  You could try to think about a way you could stay with them that could make their life easier so it’s a win win for both of you.  Is there something they want to do that you could help with, for example.  Even if you have health issues that limit you (are you feeling physically better lately?), maybe there are still things you could help out with a little at a time.

Yeah true. 😭 You're right. It should be like that. 

[Dario_M]

11 minutes ago, DonBradley said:

Dario,

I'm up late but headed to bed. It's after 1:00 AM in Utah.

Oh yeah...i allready thought that. It's just super late in Utah. Last night i knew that you guys would be awake for a long time. Because of the time differends you see. That's why i made this topic. 

11 minutes ago, DonBradley said:

That gives me a better idea of the situation - thanks!

I think you will be okay. Just remember that if things are really getting dangerous enough that you fear for your safety, then you should go someplace else and let others know how bad the situation is. 

Talking with a bishop, as others have suggested, is a great idea.

Get some sleep. And, when you can,  try to mend the situation with your housemates.

Don

Yeah i will. 👍

[Calm]

40 minutes ago, Dario_M said:

. But i don't really wanna go on a mission...so i said "no thanks."

And i can not imagine how they can help me otherwise. 

Help is not attached to going on a mission.  They may suggest other stuff where you can contribute where you can in ways that work for you, like you helping with errands for an elderly member, and they may want to discuss your finances with you to see if they can help you get in a more stable position, so it’s not you just going in and asking and them giving you what you need usually.  But there should be no sense of pressure to go on a mission just because the Church helped you out.  That is not how it is supposed to work at all.  Help may be given even to nonmembers, if there are conditions attached, it is usually something you can do right away (like helping out another member).

[Calm]

Dario,

If you feel most comfortable talking with the Stake President because of the language issue, then get with him.  Asking for help is difficult enough when it is easy to understand each other.  He may still need to direct you back to your bishop, because it is the bishop who handles fast offering funds and such where any financial help would come from, but he can then help with explaining to the bishop.  If it’s more about making contacts to get you a better place to live that can be permanent, the Stake President may be able to handle that on his own.  Bishops and stake presidents and relief society presidents are likely to know about those kinds of things, or know how to find out as that is part of their callings, helping members be safe when they can.

[Dario_M]

42 minutes ago, Calm said:

Help is not attached to going on a mission.  They may suggest other stuff where you can contribute where you can in ways that work for you, like you helping with errands for an elderly member, and they may want to discuss your finances with you to see if they can help you get in a more stable position, so it’s not you just going in and asking and them giving you what you need usually.

 

Oh dear...i didn't knew that. I only thought that going on a mission was the way to get a home. Somewhere really far away from home. And that's also though you know. So i thought nope not me. 

42 minutes ago, Calm said:

 But there should be no sense of pressure to go on a mission just because the Church helped you out.  That is not how it is supposed to work at all.  Help may be given even to nonmembers, if there are conditions attached, it is usually something you can do right away (like helping out another member).

Yeah. And that's a beautiful concept though. I just can not wait till it's sunday again. Only 2 days waiting. I will disscus this with my stake president. Thanks for your advice dear Calm. 💙

[Dario_M]

38 minutes ago, Norma pearson said:

Maybe you should stop being a Mormon.  Your church has figure head, no prophet....they are just middle aged dudes who make 5 year olds suck their ****.

This is the last thing i need right now in this topic. It's you isn't? Mike?? 

I'm gonna report you. 

[Dario_M]

49 minutes ago, Calm said:

Dario,

If you feel most comfortable talking with the Stake President because of the language issue, then get with him.  Asking for help is difficult enough when it is easy to understand each other.  He may still need to direct you back to your bishop, because it is the bishop who handles fast offering funds and such where any financial help would come from, but he can then help with explaining to the bishop.  If it’s more about making contacts to get you a better place to live that can be permanent, the Stake President may be able to handle that on his own.  Bishops and stake presidents and relief society presidents are likely to know about those kinds of things, or know how to find out as that is part of their callings, helping members be safe when they can.

Wooow really?  I didn't realised that my stake president had so much power. He's just a cool guy. Never seen him angry. I like him though.

But this sounds way more serious. That he has all those recources impresses me. 

Edited August 4 by Dario_M

[Calm]

6 minutes ago, Dario_M said:

This is the last thing i need right now in this topic. It's you isn't? Mike?? 

I'm gonna report you. 

Doubt it’s Mike.  More likely some kid because there is not much thought behind any of their comments  (no one half reasonable would believe it is legal to rape a kid in Utah even if it was common, which it isn’t).  They are trying to be offensive for some strange reason.  Just ignore them, not worth the energy it takes to read it and it’s been reported.  The posts will all get deleted as soon as a mod is aware of them and soon forgotten just like the ones before them.

[Calm]

4 minutes ago, Dario_M said:

Wooow really?  I didn't realised that my stake president had so much power. He's just a cool guy. Never seen him angry. I like him though.

But this sounds way more serious. That he has all those recources impresses me. 

I am just saying he may know things and people from all over the stake because he gets reports, but he might be the kind of person who has other people cover that stuff….each SP probably does his calling a bit differently from others.  I know some who have been hands on in helping individuals and others who just let the bishops work as they see fit and such.  I am not sure what you mean by power.  Bishops and relief society presidents are the ones called to actually work with welfare help.  Sometimes they get others involved as needed (like Primary Presidents if kids are involved).

[Dario_M]

13 minutes ago, Calm said:

Doubt it’s Mike.  More likely some kid because there is not much thought behind any of their comments  (no one half reasonable would believe it is legal to rape a kid in Utah even if it was common, which it isn’t).

I always get this type of people after me. In rl the same thing happen.  But that's quite shocking though. About what he write on the forum. Good that i repported him.

13 minutes ago, Calm said:

 They are trying to be offensive for some strange reason.  Just ignore them, not worth the energy it takes to read it and it’s been reported.  The posts will all get deleted as soon as a mod is aware of them and soon forgotten just like the ones before them.

Exactly Calm. You're right. Btw...i just wanna thank you (and the others) again for the nice comments and worries. The night here is over now it's 10:35 here. I know that in Utah the nighttimes is beggining to start 3:37 in Utah. I hope you will have a way better sleep then i had last night. God bless you dear Calm. You're to nice. ❤🧡💛

Edited August 4 by Dario_M

[Dario_M]

9 minutes ago, Calm said:

I am just saying he may know things and people from all over the stake because he gets reports, but he might be the kind of person who has other people cover that stuff….each SP probably does his calling a bit differently from others.  I know some who have been hands on in helping individuals and others who just let the bishops work as they see fit and such.  I am not sure what you mean by power.  Bishops and relief society presidents are the ones called to actually work with welfare help.  Sometimes they get others involved as needed (like Primary Presidents if kids are involved).

With power i mean mostely that that person has more blessing. More responsibility's. And also got the holy ghost close to him. And all kind of recourches availeble you know. 💙

[Calm]

29 minutes ago, Dario_M said:

With power i mean mostely that that person has more blessing. More responsibility's. And also got the holy ghost close to him. And all kind of recourches availeble you know. 💙

I really hope you can get the help you need, Dario.  I have become quite fond of you and hate the thought you are not in a good place.

[Dario_M]

Update i finaly had some sleep. 

[Dario_M]

3 hours ago, Calm said:

I really hope you can get the help you need, Dario.  I have become quite fond of you and hate the thought you are not in a good place.

Thank you so much. I'm crying again by reading your storie. You're so nice. I was thankfull for you guys last night. Thankfull for the company. I knew you guys would be there for me. 

I'm trying to get some more sleep. But i want each of you to know that i'm thankfull for helding me company. 

[Calm]

3 minutes ago, Dario_M said:

Update i finaly had some sleep. 

The sun is coming up, so my brain is finally ready to sleep.  (It prefers to do things the reverse that everyone else does, it seems at times…either that or I have vampire DNA)