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Recently, an interesting book has been published by a small Canadian press from Toronto, namely LogoStar Press. This is a version of the Book of Mormon in Reformed Egyptian, philologically restored via Chomskyan linguistics and modern computer technology. The editor, Daniel Deleanu, is an academic with a PhD in linguistics who has also published a Reformed Egyptian grammar, a lexicon and a few other books on Reformed Egyptian. He apparently is not a member of the LDS Church, or at least he wasn’t at the time the project was started. I’ve just ordered the printed version from Amazon, which is a bit pricey at $59, but it’s a huge book: The Book of Mormon: The Original Reformed Egyptian Version - Philologically Restored through the Grace of God: Deleanu, Daniel: 9781471057717: Amazon.com: Books. There is also available a Kindle edition for just $6: THE BOOK OF MORMON: The Original Reformed Egyptian Version – Philologically Restored through the Grace of God - Kindle edition by Deleanu, Daniel. Religion & Spirituality Kindle eBooks @ Amazon.com. I’ve also spotted the book at pretty much the same price on other channels that distribute electronic books (Nook, etc.). The really curious and, in my opinion, awesome thing is the fact that the book was published in Toronto, exactly the place where the Book of Mormon was supposed to be published according to Joseph Smith’s prophecy, even if almost two centuries later (perhaps the delay has a meaning, perhaps God wanted to show us that he always keeps his word). The prophecy is a bit confusing, because it tells us in one place that the book was to be published in Toronto and in another it mentions Kingston. Now, the truly amazing thing is the fact that, while this Book of Mormon in Reformed Egyptian was published in Toronto, exactly as the prophecy goes, Kingston is involved too, and the word does appear written on the book, but not as a place, rather as the name of an electronics/IT company (Kingston Technology, usually labelled just Kingston), which has been a publishing partner for this project. According to a reviewer, people at the time the prophecy was made could not know that Kingston was not the name of the city in Ontario, but rather the name of a computer technology company. I agree with that. So, to me, too, this is a clear sign of the fulfillment of the prophecy regarding the publishing of the Book of Mormon in Canada, and for that I praise the name of God! It appears that God, during these turbulent times, gives us a sign through this book that he always keeps his word, that he has not turned away his face from us, and that he wants us to have faith in him more than ever. I wonder if anyone else knows anything about this and what you think of it.      

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19 minutes ago, Silva said:

Recently, an interesting book has been published by a small Canadian press from Toronto, namely LogoStar Press. This is a version of the Book of Mormon in Reformed Egyptian, philologically restored via Chomskyan linguistics and modern computer technology. The editor, Daniel Deleanu, is an academic with a PhD in linguistics who has also published a Reformed Egyptian grammar, a lexicon and a few other books on Reformed Egyptian. He apparently is not a member of the LDS Church, or at least he wasn’t at the time the project was started. I’ve just ordered the printed version from Amazon, which is a bit pricey at $59, but it’s a huge book: The Book of Mormon: The Original Reformed Egyptian Version - Philologically Restored through the Grace of God: Deleanu, Daniel: 9781471057717: Amazon.com: Books. There is also available a Kindle edition for just $6: THE BOOK OF MORMON: The Original Reformed Egyptian Version – Philologically Restored through the Grace of God - Kindle edition by Deleanu, Daniel. Religion & Spirituality Kindle eBooks @ Amazon.com. I’ve also spotted the book at pretty much the same price on other channels that distribute electronic books (Nook, etc.). The really curious and, in my opinion, awesome thing is the fact that the book was published in Toronto, exactly the place where the Book of Mormon was supposed to be published according to Joseph Smith’s prophecy, even if almost two centuries later (perhaps the delay has a meaning, perhaps God wanted to show us that he always keeps his word). The prophecy is a bit confusing, because it tells us in one place that the book was to be published in Toronto and in another it mentions Kingston. Now, the truly amazing thing is the fact that, while this Book of Mormon in Reformed Egyptian was published in Toronto, exactly as the prophecy goes, Kingston is involved too, and the word does appear written on the book, but not as a place, rather as the name of an electronics/IT company (Kingston Technology, usually labelled just Kingston), which has been a publishing partner for this project. According to a reviewer, people at the time the prophecy was made could not know that Kingston was not the name of the city in Ontario, but rather the name of a computer technology company. I agree with that. So, to me, too, this is a clear sign of the fulfillment of the prophecy regarding the publishing of the Book of Mormon in Canada, and for that I praise the name of God! It appears that God, during these turbulent times, gives us a sign through this book that he always keeps his word, that he has not turned away his face from us, and that he wants us to have faith in him more than ever. I wonder if anyone else knows anything about this and what you think of it.      

Since reformed Egyptian is a language the Nephites and Lamanites essentially made up, how has this doctor written a book in it?

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15 hours ago, bluebell said:

Since reformed Egyptian is a language the Nephites and Lamanites essentially made up, how has this doctor written a book in it?

They may have had their own version, but there is speculation that it is a form of demotic Egyptian (since it takes up less space than regular or hieratic hieroglyphs).  Still the Book of Mormon is explicit “none other know our language”, so I am curious as well.

https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1694&context=msr

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 In fact, the word reformed is used in the Book of Mormon in this context as an adjective, meaning “altered, modified, or changed.” This is made clear by Mormon, who tells us that “the characters which are called among us the reformed Egyptian, [were] handed down and altered by us” and that “none other people knoweth our language” (Mormon 9:32, 34). First we should emphasize that Mormon is describing Egyptian characters, or what we today would call a script or writing system. It is the form or shape of the characters or symbols that was altered by the Nephites. Nephite reformed Egyptian is thus a unique script. It derived from the Egyptian writing systems but then was modified and adapted to suit Nephite language and writing materials.
The fact that modern linguists and philologists are not aware of a script known as reformed Egyptian is irrelevant since Mormon tells us that the script was called reformed Egyptian “by us”—that is, by the Nephites; they may have been the only people to use that descriptive phrase….

[B]oth of the hieratic and demotic scripts could be considered “reformed” or modified versions of the original hieroglyphic script. These are both examples of writing the Egyptian language in reformed versions of the Egyptian hieroglyphic script; there are also several examples of the use of reformed or modified Egyptian characters to write non­ Egyptian languages.

 

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16 hours ago, Silva said:

The editor, Daniel Deleanu, is an academic with a PhD in linguistics

Where did he get his Ph.D.

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Romanian-born Daniel Deleanu has been educated in Europe and the U.S. He has authored eight books,amongst which The Islamic Jesus and a highly praised translation of the Bhagavad Gita into English. Daniel Deleanu resides in Toronto,Canada,and teaches for Writers College in Tampa,Florida

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He holds degrees in religion, philosophy, English, Romanian and journalism.


 

There is no Writer’s College in Tampa.

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A new translation of this immortal classic by a scholar with a PhD in philology (the study of ancient languages and literatures), who is also an internationally acclaimed poet.

Can anyone find this acclaim online?  So far I am seeing one overly enthusiastic person.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/profile/amzn1.account.AE5UMGONVK5VM4ALGTQ7MF625NGA/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_gw_tr?ie=UTF8

My guess is a delusional writer (based on all his books, not just the odd RE version of the BoM) or a scammer.  And his fan…is him.  He can’t resist signing a review trashing another author using the alias that is the only reviewer of any of his books.
 

A review of another book:

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As a proficient speaker of toki pona, this book is not in toki pona, it is in complete gibberish. It's likely he just wrote bullshit that means nothing so he could claim his english "translations" of that bullshit after every paragraph are more legitimate than he if just published those english ramblings on his own. I'm not even going to comment on the legitimacy of the English contents, since you can probably guess based on the fact that he just pretended to write in toki pona. Although it is a welcomed activity in the toki pona community to create your own edited versions of toki pona called tokiponidos for fun, I doubt that this is actually one of those, with internal logic, since I can just tell there is no way his translations can possibly come out of that amount of text if it supposedly anything close to toki pona, and because he also lies about teaching at a university that doesn't exist "Writers College in Tampa, Florida". I'm 90% sure he doesn't even understand toki pona. Furthermore, he has published tons of stuff on a supposed language called 'Reformed Egyptian' that is proposed to exist by the Book of Mormon, but it is not acknowledged by any non-mormon scholars (obviously). What this makes him is a fraud, and far from a cute one at that, even if he has a huge bibliography to show for it (thousands of shitty books). He is probably the most superficial commentator on toki pona since the idiotic Anthony McCarthy.

https://www.lulu.com/shop/daniel-deleanu/a-toki-pona-survey-of-being/paperback/product-22532520.html?page=1&pageSize=4

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My expert opinion (if I say so myself) is this is definitely not a fulfillment of prophecy, but an exercise in egoism.  Is there any way to determine if anyone has purchased any of his books?

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Still this thread is interesting because it led me to Toki Pona…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toki_Pona

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Toki Pona is an isolating language with only 14 phonemes and an underlying feature of minimalism. It focuses on simple, near-universal concepts to maximize expression from very few words. In Toki Pona: The Language of Good, Lang presents around 120 words, while the later Toki Pona Dictionarylists 137 "essential" words and a number of less-used ones.[c] Its words are easy to pronounce across language backgrounds, which allows it to serve as a bridge of sorts for people of different cultures.[11] However, it was not created as an international auxiliary language. Partly inspired by Taoist philosophy, the language is designed to help users concentrate on basic things and to promote positive thinking, in accordance with the Sapir–Whorf hypothesis. Despite the small vocabulary, speakers can understand and communicate, mainly relying on context and combinations of words to express more specific meanings.

After its initial creation, a small community of speakers developed in the early 2000s.[5][12] While activity mainly takes place online in chat rooms, on social media, and in other online groups, there were a few organized in-person meetings during the 2000s[1] and 2010s.

 

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I've done some research on Daniel Deleanu. He does hold a PhD in linguistics (philology) from Lucian Blaga University in Sibiu, Romania, where he in fact taught for a couple of years. He did teach at Writers College in Tampa too, a private tertiary school which was then purchased by a Chinese university that later on moved it to New Zealand as an online college, which is still in existence today. And he does not use Lulu to publish his books, which are published by a small Canadian press. I understand that this press uses Lulu just for distribution since Lulu is currently the largest publisher of independent books in the world. As for Toki Pona, who are you to judge? Do you have a PhD in Toki Pona from Toki Pona University? A little humbleness wouldn't hurt... As for me, no, I am not the writer. I was just curious to know what others have to say about this book, that's all. Unfortunately, with one or two exceptions, I've read only inane answers from unreliable commentators. Let's not forget that when the Book of Mormon was given to us, people reacted exactly in the same way.

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Then please explain how he could reverse translate it into Reformed Egyptian when no one knows what most of it looks like (even assuming the characters manuscript is accurate, that is not that many, one page’s worth at most) and according to the authors themselves no one else had ever used the language…and given their civilization’s destruction, no one else after them did.

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Let's not forget that when the Book of Mormon was given to us, people reacted exactly in the same way.

He is claiming scholarship, not revelation, produced his book.  Therefore, judgment should be based in scholarship.

May I ask how you found the info on where he got his degree?  A link perhaps.

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According to google scholar his Islamic Jesus has been cited twice, but his other books not.

He has several books published by Buxton University Press, which sounds prestigious until one looks at wiki..

https://www.amazon.com/s?i=stripbooks&rh=p_27%3ABuxton+University+Press&s=relevancerank&text=Buxton+University+Press&ref=dp_byline_sr_book_1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buxton_University

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Buxton University was an unaccredited vendor of distance education that used a postal address in the United Kingdom.[1] It is associated with the Instantdegrees.com website.[2][3]

Charter and accreditation status[edit]

The institution did not hold a Royal Charter,[4] which is required for an institution in the United Kingdom to call itself a "university", per the Further and Higher Education Act 1992. However, the institution does not advertise itself as a university in the UK and uses a commercial (instead of academic) internet domain name- buxtonuniversity.co.uk. The domain, however, is registered to a "Camford Institute Subang Jaya" in Singapore.[5]

Buxton claimed accreditation by the World Online Education Accrediting Commission,[6] as well as the Board of Online Universities Accreditation (BOUA), but neither agency is recognized as a higher education accreditor by the United States Department of Education or the Council on Higher Education Accreditation.

Buxton University is on the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board list of "Institutions Whose Degrees are Illegal to Use in Texas."[7]

There is another option that looks even less credible

https://kinginyellow.fandom.com/wiki/Buxton_University_Press

google scholar lists him with over 20 books, only one has the two cites…

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?start=0&q=“Daniel+Deleanu”&hl=en&as_sdt=0,45

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Daniel Deleanu holds, among other degrees, a PhD Magna Cum Laude in philology. He is one of the most prolific authors living in the world today, having penned over one thousand books in several languages – philosophy, literary criticism, novels, plays, poetry collections, translations, etc. He lives in Toronto, Canada. Satirizing mercilessly the latest extremist ideologies of the new generation of political pigs, both left- and right-winged, who are trying hard to change us into sheeple, this is the book no one wanted to publish. After a big Canadian publisher voided the contract for its publication, eventually considering it too dangerous to be printed, Daniel Deleanu’s novel has clandestinely become, in a samizdat form, a symbol of resistance against the most recent forms of totalitarianism, which are once again stopping books from being published and are transforming people into sheep. About the book, Fernando Arrabal wrote: “Daniel Deleanu’s novel is [...] the book that no one dared publish in the age of political correctness and casino capitalism, an extraordinary satire of the turbulent times in which we are living – the best that has been written so far
Source: Publisher

https://www.amazon.com/Farm-Arcade-Farm-Themed-Pinball-Posthuman/dp/1716513022/ref=sr_1_1?

And yet no one reviews his books…

I would love to know how many books he has sold.

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These esoteric texts written in the occult Dakini language have puzzled scholars for centuries. Now they are offered here in the first translation ever, after the recent decipherment of Dakini. The editor and translator, Daniel Deleanu, MA, MLitt, PhD, is also the decipherer of Dakini, the original idiom of the Dakini Pecha, the secret mystical language of the dakinis, Bön and Buddhist goddesses or sky-dancing ladies with a well-established soteriological function in Tibetan spirituality.

https://shop.garudabooks.ch/en/dakini-pecha-ed-and-transl-by-daniel-deleanu.html

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The prophecy about the publishing of the Book of Mormon in Toronto, via Kingston, has eventually been fulfilled, a century and a half after it was made by Joseph Smith. And this is not only the Book of Mormon as we know it from its English translation, but the original Reformed Egyptian text, philologically reconstructed with the help of modern technology, and has just been published in Toronto, as the prophecy foretold, by an independent press (LogoStar Press) with the help of Kingston Technology (in the 19th century they believed Kingston to be a place, not an IT company!). This may very well be the greatest event of the century in the publishing world, and a reminder that the Lord always keeps his word. Hallelujah! 

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by Nephiscion on September 16, 2022

Silva, are you Nephiscion?

https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-book-of-mormon-52

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Silva, when you get his book, please post a couple of pages (photo is fine as long as legible) so we can see what it’s like.

added: Never mind, found google books…with a search inside; instead you can explain how he came to this conclusion and how Nephites managed to use the Latin alphabet? (Assuming it is not actually RE, but a transliteration of such which is much less interesting than the expected Reformed Egyptian).

https://www.google.com/books/edition/THE_BOOK_OF_MORMON/tIKJEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1

Comparing 1 Nephi 4:35-38

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35 And it came to pass that Zoram did take courage at the words which I spake. Now Zoram was the name of the servant; and he promised that he would go down into the wilderness unto our father. Yea, and he also made an oath unto us that he would tarry with us from that time forth.

36 Now we were desirous that he should tarry with us for this cause, that the Jews might not know concerning our flight into the wilderness, lest they should pursue us and destroy us.

37 And it came to pass that when Zoram had made an oath unto us, our fears did cease concerning him.

38 And it came to pass that we took the plates of brass and the servant of Laban, and departed into the wilderness, and journeyed unto the tent of our father.

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The second volume of the ""Reformed Egyptian Grammar"" by Daniel Deleanu, PhD, is an objective study of the syntax of the original language of the Book of Mormon, which he has reconstructed starting from his own ""Rosetta Stone,"" namely the controversial ""Anthon Transcript,"" which he proves to be absolutely authentic, and the so-called ""Ferrini Lead Fragment,"" a tiny piece from a scroll found in Israel that once belonged to Bruce Ferrini, the antiquities dealer who put on the market the Gospel of Judas. Dr. Deleanu clearly evinces Reformed Egyptian's Semitic roots and, through etymological research, its connections with Paleo-Hebrew, with the script it borrowed from Egypt, and, possibly, with several Mesoamerican languages. Daniel Deleanu holds, among other degrees, a doctorate magna cum laude in philology. ""The most important breakthrough in the field of Egyptology since that of Champollion."" Sarah Israelit-Groll, PhD Founder and Head of the Department of Egyptology, Hebrew University of Jerusalem

What a glowing tribute by a well known expert in her field.  So how did she evaluate a book published in 2013 when she died in 2007?  In another book’s blurb, it says he deciphered RE in 2012, so she would have been unable to see his work before he published it.

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Reformed_Egyptian_Lexicon/ida6ngEACAAJ?hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj0r9Xd5df8AhViDkQIHa2JAWoQiqUDegQIJhBX

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Israelit_Groll

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Sarah I. Groll, 1986, Copenhagen.

Sarah Israelit Groll (Hebrew: שרה ישראלית-גרול; 1925–2007) was an Israeli Egyptologist and linguist.

Sarah Groll was born 1925 in Tel Aviv, Mandatory Palestine. She studied at the Hebrew University, Jerusalem, under Hans Jakob Polotsky, and at Oxford she studied Ramesside texts under Jaroslav Černý. She published her doctoral thesis On the problem of negative sentences in late Egyptian in 1963. In 1972 she founded the Department of Egyptology at the Hebrew University. She died on 16 December 2007. Groll's studies of the Late Egyptian verbal system deepened understanding of the ancient Egyptian language at this stage of its development.

 

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The so called Reformed Egyptian appears to be simply transliterated Hebrew according to a friend who would know. So nothing creative  or interesting about it. No Rosetta Stone, no deciphering of the Anthon manuscript here. Perhaps there is some Egyptian used in his other books, the grammar and lexicon and whatever the others were, but no mystery here. 

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