Calm Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Teancum said: Have fun with your (unrighteous) judgment. I assumed teddy was being sarcastic. Are you assuming he is serious? Maybe teddy can clarify if so. If not, if you read him as sarcastic or something else besides serious, can you explain your post? 1 Link to comment
bluebell Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, Calm said: I assumed teddy was being sarcastic. Are you assuming he is serious? Maybe teddy can clarify if so. If not, if you read him as sarcastic or something else besides serious, can you explain your post? I assumed he was being sarcastic as well. And it sounds like Teancum misunderstood if he is. But maybe we are the ones who have Teddy wrong. Link to comment
CA Steve Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 25 minutes ago, Calm said: I assumed teddy was being sarcastic. Are you assuming he is serious? Maybe teddy can clarify if so. If not, if you read him as sarcastic or something else besides serious, can you explain your post? Teddy has a long history of sanctimonious pontification. I assumed he was serious. 1 Link to comment
Calm Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, CA Steve said: Teddy has a long history of sanctimonious pontification. I assumed he was serious. I probably shouldn’t because I am not sure if this qualifies as too personal (it is about his behaviour rather than his nature, still…), but I don’t disagree, except this time I thought it directed against Broccoli. I thought for once I could agree with teddy, . Link to comment
Teancum Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 23 minutes ago, Calm said: I assumed teddy was being sarcastic. Are you assuming he is serious? Maybe teddy can clarify if so. If not, if you read him as sarcastic or something else besides serious, can you explain your post? Based on his posting record I read it as totally serious. So no I did not read it as sarcastic. But he can correct me and if it was meant that way I will retract my comment/post. Link to comment
teddyaware Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, Teancum said: Based on his posting record I read it as totally serious. So no I did not read it as sarcastic. But he can correct me and if it was meant that way I will retract my comment/post. I’m surmising that being in a constant state of anger and negativity has robbed you of the ability to discern when someone is employing sardonic humor in order to condemn someone who’s obviously mired in self righteousness. 2 Link to comment
Popular Post Teancum Posted April 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2022 52 minutes ago, teddyaware said: I’m surmising that being in a constant state of anger and negativity has robbed you of the ability to discern when someone is employing sardonic humor in order to condemn someone who’s obviously mired in self righteousness. Nice ad hominem dude. Based on your historic posting style there is no reason for me not to surmise you were totally serious. And I was not the only one who thought so. And if it was sarcastic I apologize. As for me being in a constant state of anger blah blah blah, nothing is further from the truth. I am quite happy and less angry at this point in my life than I ever have been thank you very much. 7 Link to comment
katherine the great Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 4 hours ago, teddyaware said: I’m surmising that being in a constant state of anger and negativity has robbed you of the ability to discern when someone is employing sardonic humor in order to condemn someone who’s obviously mired in self righteousness. There’s plenty of virtue-signaling all around. I think someone finding out their friend is a child molester is an appropriate reason to vent. Link to comment
Calm Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, katherine the great said: There’s plenty of virtue-signaling all around. I think someone finding out their friend is a child molester is an appropriate reason to vent. Kind of weird though doing it in a random thread on a random board…unless they are using a sock puppet, that is their only post which they joined the board to post and this thread doesn’t mention Kimball…we had one, but perhaps it got locked. And it has been 18 months since his death. Edited April 18, 2022 by Calm 1 Link to comment
katherine the great Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Calm said: Kind of weird though doing it in a random thread on a random board…unless they are using a sock puppet, that is their only post which they joined the board to post and this thread doesn’t mention Kimball…we had one, but perhaps it got locked. And it has been 18 months since his death. I thought it seemed kind of random too. But I didn’t have time to go back through the thread and see if he had been mentioned earlier. If not, that is extremely weird. 1 Link to comment
mfbukowski Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 22 hours ago, teddyaware said: Now that’s what I like to see! Someone who has the courage and perfect righteousness to be able to take a seat on the throne of God and boldly condemn someone they don’t like to an eternity in hell with the sons of perdition! Cool!!! Obviously sarcastic 2 Link to comment
Calm Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 1 hour ago, katherine the great said: I thought it seemed kind of random too. But I didn’t have time to go back through the thread and see if he had been mentioned earlier. If not, that is extremely weird. I used the search function since it is a relatively recent thread. 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Scott Lloyd Posted April 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 19, 2022 On 4/17/2022 at 7:55 PM, JustAnAustralian said: News cycle has moved on. Chances are the next we hear of him will be when the General YM Presidency cycles out. I think it’s time we let this thing die. Brother Wilcox is a good man; he has been pilloried enough. 6 Link to comment
Teancum Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 (edited) On 4/18/2022 at 8:19 PM, mfbukowski said: Deleted Edited April 20, 2022 by Teancum Link to comment
rodheadlee Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 On 4/18/2022 at 10:44 AM, Teancum said: Nice ad hominem dude. Based on your historic posting style there is no reason for me not to surmise you were totally serious. And I was not the only one who thought so. And if it was sarcastic I apologize. As for me being in a constant state of anger blah blah blah, nothing is further from the truth. I am quite happy and less angry at this point in my life than I ever have been thank you very much. That may be true but you come across as angry. 1 Link to comment
teddyaware Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 On 4/18/2022 at 10:44 AM, Teancum said: Nice ad hominem dude. Based on your historic posting style there is no reason for me not to surmise you were totally serious. And I was not the only one who thought so. And if it was sarcastic I apologize. As for me being in a constant state of anger blah blah blah, nothing is further from the truth. I am quite happy and less angry at this point in my life than I ever have been thank you very much. Nothing like denying one is angry and negative while resorting to the classic ‘blah, blah, blah’ angry and negative retort. 2 Link to comment
Snodgrassian Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 On 4/18/2022 at 11:47 PM, Scott Lloyd said: I think it’s time we let this thing die. Brother Wilcox is a good man; he has been pilloried enough. I will not judge if he is a good man or not, but he lost a ton of credibility. When he speaks, his position and power differential have meaning and influence over his audience. I guess I just expect more from someone in his position. His talk was very childish and in poor taste. But that is just me. 1 Link to comment
Scott Lloyd Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Snodgrassian said: I will not judge if he is a good man or not, but he lost a ton of credibility. When he speaks, his position and power differential have meaning and influence over his audience. I guess I just expect more from someone in his position. His talk was very childish and in poor taste. But that is just me. You haven’t said anything here that has not been repeated ad nauseam on this thread — the classic pile-on. I just think enough is enough and that it’s time to stop. Edited April 22, 2022 by Scott Lloyd -2 Link to comment
Calm Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Scott Lloyd said: the classic pile-on. How many have to be critical in order to qualify as a pile-on in your view? Edited April 23, 2022 by Calm 1 Link to comment
teddyaware Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Scott Lloyd said: You haven’t said anything here that has not been repeated ad nauseam on this thread — the classic pile-on. I just think enough is enough and that it’s time to stop. The curious thing is that 25 years ago very few members would have even thought twice about Wilcox’s remarks, but the new breed of woke, cancel culture affirming members, who praise abortion and gay marriage as virtues, brazenly act as if they occupy the unassailable moral high ground Link to comment
Popular Post Calm Posted April 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, teddyaware said: The curious thing is that 25 years ago very few members would have even thought twice about Wilcox’s remarks Mocking other churches by saying they were “playing church”? I don’t think so. I know quite a few, including those whose families belonged to other faiths who would have been troubled by his comments. 1995 with what he said about blacks and the priesthood, I am iffy on that one. I would not be surprised if it had been ignored for the most part. We didn’t have as much info on how the Ban occurred as we do now and speculation is a major pastime in the Church. Plus we had fewer black members to educate us on what the implications of the speculations meant to them. I am glad we are more informed now than we were 25 years ago. Edited April 23, 2022 by Calm 8 Link to comment
JustAnAustralian Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Calm said: Mocking other churches? I don’t think so. (If I gambled) I would bet that there are still some out there today that follow McConkies 1st printing of Mormon Doctrine and say that the Roman Catholic Church is the Great and Abominable Church. Link to comment
Calm Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, JustAnAustralian said: (If I gambled) I would bet that there are still some out there today that follow McConkies 1st printing of Mormon Doctrine and say that the Roman Catholic Church is the Great and Abominable Church. I have no doubt there are members who enjoyed the way he phrased it and backed him all the way. And I know of some who believe the Roman Catholic Church is the GandA. I just don’t believe that only very few members would have been troubled by it 25 years ago. I remember conversations I had with many about respecting other faiths and I had my first conversation with a missionary around then about remembering to respect the sacrifice he was asking investigators to make by converting, including possibly a loved faith. 50 years ago, my mother and grandmother both criticized derogatory remarks about others’ faith and I have no doubt my dad and one of my grandfathers would have as well if such came up when they were around, not sure if my other two grandparents would have been concerned about it, but if asked if they thought other faiths were playing at church, I am pretty sure they would say it was insulting to say so. Edited April 23, 2022 by Calm 1 Link to comment
rongo Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 On 4/16/2022 at 12:15 PM, CV75 said: Whatever happened with Elder Wilcox -- has the tenor his youth presentations changed? Did he have a conversation with BYU students wanting to incite change? I don't think the meeting ever took place. If it had, I'm sure Nate Byrd and "Black Menaces" would have posted video and tried to agitate more off of their "dialogue" with Wilcox. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/black-mormons-turn-tiktok-hold-majority-white-school-accountable-race-rcna25366 In hindsight, I think Wilcox handled the disruption of his class video ambush perfectly by suggesting they schedule an appointment. That was the best thing he could have done in that moment with the camera rolling. 1 Link to comment
Scott Lloyd Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Calm said: How many have to be critical in order to qualify as a pile-on in your view? I don’t make a practice of quantifying such things, but I’d say this thread constitutes a pretty good illustration. 1 Link to comment
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