The Nehor Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 51 minutes ago, JLHPROF said: I don't know, I've often thought I'd like to volunteer as the Celestial Kingdom greeter, getting to let all the recently deceased know Mormonism was the right choice. Kind of like that South Park scene. I want to be a destroying angel. I know how to wreck things. 2 Link to comment
Calm Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 52 minutes ago, JLHPROF said: I don't know, I've often thought I'd like to volunteer as the Celestial Kingdom greeter, getting to let all the recently deceased know Mormonism was the right choice. Kind of like that South Park scene. That actually might be quite fun as long as I knew they weren’t going to be suffering because they got it wrong. 1 Link to comment
3DOP Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 11 hours ago, HappyJackWagon said: "Jerks" is far from being "hate filled monsters". Yes- they believe there is one true church and the rest are counterfeits. But the bunker mentality of avoiding any exposure to the faith and worship of others because they believe they are right, isn't a justification in my mind. To me, that sounds a bit like a racist being justified in their racism because they really, truly believe it. I don't respect or appreciate an attitude of "I know what's right so I'm justified". IMO there is always room for some humility in our beliefs. Absolute certitude is dangerous and quite off-putting. Hi Happy Jack. I wasn't trying to imply that you were saying that your family are "hate filled monsters". "Jerk" is far from that but bad enough. I worded it poorly. I meant that I do not know your family at all. You do. I was hoping that perhaps you were forgetting their convictions, which I can see, are off-putting to you. Truly, all I was trying for was to reconcile, not alienate someone from his family by sharing how I might, as one who perhaps appreciates your family's position, could be sympathetic with them. Maybe they are wrong. Maybe they are jerk! I am glad they are certainly not monsters of hate. I have no concern in this except to help you, if possible, to be less offended with those who perhaps love you. Blessed are the peacemakers? But shoot, it isn't for me, so I can chalk one up for "peacemaker me". I want the best for you all. I like you and your family, from what I know of you (little). It is better if we do not pursue mental exercises which could encourage bitterness towards family, or anybody, whether it would be just or unjust. I fear that I, the pious preacher, am more guilty than anybody. Miserere nobis. God have mercy. All my best to you and your family, that you be happy. 3DOP 3 Link to comment
Rain Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 hour ago, JLHPROF said: I don't know, I've often thought I'd like to volunteer as the Celestial Kingdom greeter, getting to let all the recently deceased know Mormonism was the right choice. Kind of like that South Park scene. Having graded a number of school papers and have done mystery shopping where I evaluated how employees did their jobs I have no interest in being a "greeter". Link to comment
Calm Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Baba Lou said: No I am not, have not, and will not. I don't ever automatically agree to anything. This is what you are agreeing to when you click the “I agree to the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy” when you sign up. Be sure to expand the quote and read the bolded phrase. Quote Forum Terms & Rules Please take a moment to review these rules detailed below and those posted on the main page. If you agree with them and wish to proceed with the registration, simply click the "Register" button below. To cancel this registration, simply hit the 'back' button on your browser. Please remember that we are not responsible for any messages posted. We do not vouch for or warrant the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any message, and are not responsible for the contents of any message. The messages express the views of the author of the message, not necessarily the views of MD&D Board. Any user who feels that a posted message is objectionable is encouraged to contact us immediately. We have the ability to remove objectionable messages and we will make every effort to do so, within a reasonable time frame, if we determine that removal is necessary. You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this message board to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violate of any law. You agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you. Further, you agree to abide by the guidelines and assign the message board absolute permission to use any part or entire portions of material you post on the Mormon Dialogue and Discussion Board. Edited June 10, 2021 by Calm 3 Link to comment
jkwilliams Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 7 hours ago, The Nehor said: I want to be a destroying angel. I know how to wreck things. I wanna destroy passersby. Link to comment
jkwilliams Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 8 hours ago, JLHPROF said: I don't know, I've often thought I'd like to volunteer as the Celestial Kingdom greeter, getting to let all the recently deceased know Mormonism was the right choice. Kind of like that South Park scene. Which they stole from Rowan Atkinson. 4 Link to comment
Calm Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) A later and slightly more developed version...this one has the Americans and Mormons mentioned as well as including a certain Once and Allegedly Future President: Edited June 10, 2021 by Calm 3 Link to comment
Calm Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 12 hours ago, Baba Lou said: No I am not, have not, and will not. I don't ever automatically agree to anything. Does this mean 1) you are not, have not, and will not agree to abide by the rules or 2) does it mean you are, have, and will consciously and with intent agree to abide by the rules or 3) does it mean you are, have, and will consciously and with intent disagree to abide by the rules or 4) does it mean you don’t even think about rules as you plan to do what you want no matter what, no matter the buttons pushed or boxes checked by you? Feel free to just respond by number as in “#4 is correct” (only if it is, of course). Link to comment
Tacenda Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Calm said: Does this mean 1) you are not, have not, and will not agree to abide by the rules or 2) does it mean you are, have, and will consciously and with intent agree to abide by the rules or 3) does it mean you are, have, and will consciously and with intent disagree to abide by the rules or 4) does it mean you don’t even think about rules as you plan to do what you want no matter what, no matter the buttons pushed or boxes checked by you? Feel free to just respond by number as in “#4 is correct” (only if it is, of course). I wonder if the board can give Ahab a chance to redeem himself, and be able to come clean and not have to keep creating accounts in order to post. Can someone get a break here? Link to comment
jkwilliams Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Tacenda said: I wonder if the board can give Ahab a chance to redeem himself, and be able to come clean and not have to keep creating accounts in order to post. Can someone get a break here? I feel like I need to apologize for being more than a little rude. It's just that some people really get on my nerves. I'll try to be better. Link to comment
ttribe Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Tacenda said: I wonder if the board can give Ahab a chance to redeem himself, and be able to come clean and not have to keep creating accounts in order to post. Can someone get a break here? 17 minutes ago, jkwilliams said: I feel like I need to apologize for being more than a little rude. It's just that some people really get on my nerves. I'll try to be better. This is one case where I just can't agree. His flouting of the rules has literally gone on for years. Moreover, his signal to noise ratio is one of the worst I've ever seen and he frequently says deeply offensive things to people. Finally, I've seen absolutely no evidence of contrition on his part. I'm happy to be corrected if I am wrong about any of these observations, but his case seems (to me) to be one of the more egregious to occur on this board. Link to comment
jkwilliams Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 minute ago, ttribe said: This is one case where I just can't agree. His flouting of the rules has literally gone on for years. Moreover, his signal to noise ratio is one of the worst I've ever seen and he frequently says deeply offensive things to people. Finally, I've seen absolutely no evidence of contrition on his part. I'm happy to be corrected if I am wrong about any of these observations, but his case seems (to me) to be one of the more egregious to occur on this board. Oh, I completely agree with you. I just think I wasn't justified in being as rude as I was. Link to comment
ttribe Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 minute ago, jkwilliams said: Oh, I completely agree with you. I just think I wasn't justified in being as rude as I was. As "Calumniater-in-Chief" you are justified, by definition. 1 Link to comment
jkwilliams Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Just now, ttribe said: As "Calumniater-in-Chief" you are justified, by definition. I'm aspiring to be a "jackal" and member of the "raging mob." Link to comment
ttribe Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Just now, jkwilliams said: I'm aspiring to be a "jackal" and member of the "raging mob." Really? I think that would be a downgrade. Those of us in the mob look to you for leadership and support. 1 Link to comment
JAHS Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, ttribe said: This is one case where I just can't agree. His flouting of the rules has literally gone on for years. Moreover, his signal to noise ratio is one of the worst I've ever seen and he frequently says deeply offensive things to people. Finally, I've seen absolutely no evidence of contrition on his part. I'm happy to be corrected if I am wrong about any of these observations, but his case seems (to me) to be one of the more egregious to occur on this board. I put an ignore on his posts so I don't see them anymore. 2 Link to comment
jkwilliams Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Just now, JAHS said: I put an ignore on his posts so I don't see them anymore. I did too, but as soon as I do, he gets a new screen name. Lather, rinse, repeat. So annoying. 1 Link to comment
ttribe Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, JAHS said: I put an ignore on his posts so I don't see them anymore. 1 minute ago, jkwilliams said: I did too, but as soon as I do, he gets a new screen name. Lather, rinse, repeat. So annoying. Yep, it's another way he circumvents the control systems of the board. Link to comment
jkwilliams Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 minute ago, ttribe said: Yep, it's another way he circumvents the control systems of the board. I know. It's just really grating to have that empty voice show up again and again. Now, I'm just being rude again. Link to comment
ttribe Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, jkwilliams said: I know. It's just really grating to have that empty voice show up again and again. Now, I'm just being rude again. 2 Link to comment
jkwilliams Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 minute ago, ttribe said: Like I said, it's like talking to Karl Pilkington on horse tranquilizers. Link to comment
secondclasscitizen Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 On 6/8/2021 at 6:35 PM, Peppermint Patty said: If there is any hesitancy among LDS to attend other religious services it might have deep roots in the notion that God told Joseph Smith that all creeds were an abomination in his sight (JosephSmith-History 1:18-19). Yep I was taught this growing up. I am 100% sure neither one of my parents would attend another church service unless it was a funeral of a friend. That would not happen either because I can’t name one friend they have who is not Mormon. Don’t recall there ever being any either. Just to be safe I’ll say they have one non Mormon friend. Link to comment
jkwilliams Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 14 hours ago, Calm said: That actually might be quite fun as long as I knew they weren’t going to be suffering because they got it wrong. I'll stand outside the gate to show them how to get to outer darkness. Link to comment
HappyJackWagon Posted June 10, 2021 Author Share Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, 3DOP said: Hi Happy Jack. I wasn't trying to imply that you were saying that your family are "hate filled monsters". "Jerk" is far from that but bad enough. I worded it poorly. I meant that I do not know your family at all. You do. I was hoping that perhaps you were forgetting their convictions, which I can see, are off-putting to you. Truly, all I was trying for was to reconcile, not alienate someone from his family by sharing how I might, as one who perhaps appreciates your family's position, could be sympathetic with them. Maybe they are wrong. Maybe they are jerk! I am glad they are certainly not monsters of hate. I have no concern in this except to help you, if possible, to be less offended with those who perhaps love you. Blessed are the peacemakers? But shoot, it isn't for me, so I can chalk one up for "peacemaker me". I want the best for you all. I like you and your family, from what I know of you (little). It is better if we do not pursue mental exercises which could encourage bitterness towards family, or anybody, whether it would be just or unjust. I fear that I, the pious preacher, am more guilty than anybody. Miserere nobis. God have mercy. All my best to you and your family, that you be happy. 3DOP I probably should have inserted the ubiquitous smiley face emoji after I said that. I know you were just trying to be helpful. I'm sure they love me in their way but your comment does cause me to think a little about what love is. If someone says they love you and that they care about you, does that love override disrespect, disappointment, disapproval, rudeness etc? Serious question. I think there are many different levels of love and what it means to the giver and receiver. It also makes me wonder how worthwhile love is if it is given in a way that alienates the intended recipient. Sidenote- People, there is no need to continue feeding the troll Edited June 10, 2021 by HappyJackWagon 1 Link to comment
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