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Info is here:  https://fairlatterdaysaints.org/store/product/2021-fair-conference

If you have questions, just ask and I will try and find out. Also will try and pay attention to updates and post them here as well. 
 

Please keep thread focused on the Conference.

This info is from the email sent out, I am not seeing it online yet, but only looked in one spot...

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Sale runs May 28 thru June 20
 
Please Join Us for the 2021 FAIR Conference
I'd like to invite you to take advantage of Early Bird Pricing for the 2021 FAIR Conference! These prices are only available Friday, May 28 through Sunday, June 20.

The 2021 FAIR conference scheduled for August 4, 5 & 6 at the Experience Event Center in Provo, Utah. Because of social distancing concerns, the conference is limited to 300 attendees. 

All In Person tickets include a welcome gift, lunch each day and access to the on-site bookstore and all presentations, as well as opportunities to meet and greet presenters, authors and FAIR leadership & volunteers.

 
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Please consider saving your spot now! 

This year we have an amazing lineup of speakers. We have Ed Gant, Jeffery Thayne, and Steven Smoot all speaking on major social issues like transgenderism and LGBTQ issues. We are also pleased to have a guest speaker, Dr. Carl Trueman, who is an Evangelical Scholar. He has written a number of books including, "The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self: Cultural Amnesia, Expressive Individualism, and the Road to Sexual Revolution," and "The Real Scandal of the Evangelical Mind." We have Brittany Chapman Nash on Polygamy, Steven Mayfield on the Hoffman forgeries (Mormon murders), Kirk Magleby on Hugh Nibley, Hanna Seariac on women in ancient temple ceremonies, Jenny Reeder on Emma Smith, plus Keith Ericson, Mike Ash, Brian Hales, Tarik D. LaCour, Rebecca Clarke, Derek Sainsbury, Jennifer Ann Mackley, Dan Peterson and more. The full list and more details will be posted soon here.

You may not have noticed, but there is a slight increase in price for the conference tickets this year. We are always trying to balance getting information out with having enough income to operate. Costs have increased over the years and we have held our prices steady. This has made me a little more desperate in conferences past as I've called on people to donate to FAIR. To complicate matters, with the change in venue and with Covid precautions, our seating is more limited. Our long-term goal is to bring more information and conferences to you in the future. This year, we bit the bullet and increased our prices slightly to make sure we cover our costs with our limited seating. We hope you will support us in experiencing this year’s activity and helping FAIR to continue for future generations. 

 

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I may have to watch the Netflix series again on Hofmann because I had some questions and now I might be able to ask them of Mayfield...only I can’t remember them as usual.

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The venue is the same as last year, about a block north of the Utah Valley Hospital. I wonder if that place that had fantastic Korean pancakes is still nearby. 

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DEL - Bob beat me to my question.

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On 5/28/2021 at 7:21 AM, Calm said:

Info is here:  https://fairlatterdaysaints.org/store/product/2021-fair-conference

If you have questions, just ask and I will try and find out. Also will try and pay attention to updates and post them here as well. 
 

Please keep thread focused on the Conference.

This info is from the email sent out, I am not seeing it online yet, but only looked in one spot...

 

I have signed up virtual only for on demand... because I can't be there, and the time zone problem is insurmountable. And it's cheaper anyway.

What's the deal with "Sustaining Membership"? The monthly cost is $12/month, but the annual is $150! That means one saves money by doing it monthly because it's $6 cheaper overall that way. Isn't the usual thing in such matters to get a price break for buying an annual membership? I would have thought the annual would be something like $120, thus encouraging potential supporters to buy the annual!

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9 hours ago, Stargazer said:

I have signed up virtual only for on demand... because I can't be there, and the time zone problem is insurmountable. And it's cheaper anyway.

What's the deal with "Sustaining Membership"? The monthly cost is $12/month, but the annual is $150! That means one saves money by doing it monthly because it's $6 cheaper overall that way. Isn't the usual thing in such matters to get a price break for buying an annual membership? I would have thought the annual would be something like $120, thus encouraging potential supporters to buy the annual!

I will bring that up.

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It would appear the organization has gone back to the old name FAIR. I’m glad. I never did like the “FairMormon” contrivance. 

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Not the old name,  just the old abbreviation with a twist. FAIR Latter-day Saints...

FAIR for Faithful Answers, Informed Response. 

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15 minutes ago, Calm said:

Not the old name,  just the old abbreviation with a twist. FAIR Latter-day Saints...

I see that in the URL but not so much in other usages. 
 

And I noticed that the corporate name (as distinguished, I suppose, from the brand name), still seems to be the Foundation for Apologetic Information and Research. I’m glad for that too. I don’t share others’ antipathy for the word “apologetics” as denoting “defense.”

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I see that in the URL but not so much in other usages. 

It is a bit clunky. I don’t know what we will eventually settle on.  I am guessing probably just FAIR in casual conversation and the logo otherwise. 
 

We likely would have changed the official name, but I believe there is a legal difficulty.  I am guessing from comments most of us are tired of having to explain that apologetics is not apologizing and would be happy to drop it. 

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There used to be an option of buying a ticket for just one day. Three days is quite a lot for some of us working folks. Any chance that option will be added? On a similar note, why isn't it ever scheduled over Saturday?

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That is weird. Could have sworn I saw single day only options. 
 

Maybe not for the early bird special?  Will check. 
 

Added:  I am guessing because there is limited seating due to Covid, they will be giving people who want to attend all three days first chance to avoid the hassle and greater costs of filling up on one or two days, but not the full conference.  Single day may open up in that case closer to conference if we don’t max out. 
 

I can’t remember why we don’t do Saturdays, I am guessing it is because many, many involved have church callings and need to use Saturday to get back home.

Juliann might be a better source for this as she is a founding member/was a board member till recently. 

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On 6/3/2021 at 6:38 AM, Stargazer said:

What's the deal with "Sustaining Membership"? The monthly cost is $12/month, but the annual is $150! That means one saves money by doing it monthly because it's $6 cheaper overall that way. Isn't the usual thing in such matters to get a price break for buying an annual membership? I would have thought the annual would be something like $120, thus encouraging potential supporters to buy the annual!

It has been fixed, monthly is $13, annual $150. Thanks for pointing that out. 

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20 hours ago, Vellichor said:

There used to be an option of buying a ticket for just one day. Three days is quite a lot for some of us working folks. Any chance that option will be added? On a similar note, why isn't it ever scheduled over Saturday?

We did it on Saturday once and it was poorly attended. 

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I think I may have to check it out. Saw some interesting ones for people of my faith status.

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We are apparently having some sort of link issue*** for tickets. It will be taken care of as soon as possible.  This link hopefully works:

https://fairlatterdaysaints.org/store/product-category/2021_fair_conference
 

Another way would be to go to the menu on the main website, go to the bookstore and then through the category link, click on conference in case you do it later and don’t want to come back here. 
 

I haven’t tried purchasing tickets, so there might be a further glitch (not sure if that one got fixed yet or not).  I will try and track when it gets fixed to let you know if there is.  

****The register now link on the main website goes to google. 

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This was sent out by Scott, our president a few days ago as part of our newsletter. Thought some might be interested.  It includes discussion about false claims made by a critic about our finances recently. 

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What is FAIR?
 
I find that some people are very confused about what FAIR is and what we do. First of all, we know that there are several organizations that use the term "FAIR." For us, it stands for Faithful Answers, Informed Response.
We are a group of volunteers. Yes, that’s right – volunteers. We don’t have a staff of customer service people to make things happen. We have two people that work for us. They help organize our volunteers, organize our conference, do our accounting, and mail out books. Because the rest of us are volunteers, we often move more slowly than I like. But we do our best.

What do we do?

People send us questions via emails and we try to answer them. We keep all names confidential. We have even received emails from some in the former Latter-day Saint community, but again, we keep the names confidential. The volunteers answer the emails. Some of those answers, stripped of all identifying material, are posted on our website. Find Answers
 
We put on a conference each year. We try to invite speakers we think will be interesting to the Latter-day Saint community. Often, they speak on current issues, and other times they speak on history. I am really excited about this year’s conference. You really won’t want to miss it. 2021 FAIR Conference

We operate a bookstore. We have tried to collect books that are of interest to the community. We focus on books related to history and doctrine, so you won’t find any novels with us. FAIR Bookstore (fairlatterdaysaints.org)
We operate a YouTube video channel. Currently, the channel carries previous conference talks, and occasional videos that are put together by us, or by other organizations that are willing to share. FAIR - Faithful Answers, Informed Response - YouTube

We have a blog/podcast with lots of interesting information. We have many who follow one of our podcasters, Hanna Seariac. If you haven’t listened to her yet, you should! Blog - FAIR (fairlatterdaysaints.org)

This year, in addition to our regular blog material, we are supplementing the Come Follow Me curriculum.  Come, Follow Me - Doctrine & Covenants, Church History - FAIR (fairlatterdaysaints.org)
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What are we not?

One former Latter-day Saint, who has made a career out of being a podcaster and internet influencer, recently created a long podcast where he tried to describe FAIR’s creation, mission, and financing.  He made several statements that I can only categorize as dishonest. I say that because the information he gave was based on innuendo, was easy to verify using public documents, or was misleading. His organization pays him over $200,000 per year to produce these podcasts. It is difficult to believe that he doesn’t have the resources to complete a basic fact check on what he says.

Contrary to his dishonest claims, we were not created by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The Church was not involved in the creation of our organization, nor did they encourage us to organize. Also, contrary to that podcaster’s claims, The Church was not involved in the creation of The More Good Foundation, The Interpreter, or Book of Mormon Central. All of these organizations were created by everyday people who felt there was a need. None of these organizations, including FAIR, were created with input from the Church. I included the other organizations here because I personally know the founders of these groups and don’t like to see them misrepresented.

Again, contrary to the dishonest claims of that same podcaster, we don’t receive millions of dollars from the Church. He repeated this claim throughout his presentation. You don’t have to believe what I say about finances. You can view our public 990 tax forms here: Foundation For Apologetic Information And Research Inc - Nonprofit Explorer - ProPublica
The podcaster repeatedly stated that people should correct him if he is wrong. I am surprised that nobody in his audience looked at our 990s and corrected him. It only takes 30 seconds to see that he is incorrect. He pointed out that 990 tax forms are public, so I have a hard time believing it was an ignorant mistake.

In our 24-year history, we have received two donations from the More Good Foundation, the most recent in 2018. The other organization that has given us donations is the United Way. Other than that, individuals or family charities donate to us, many in very small amounts. We appreciate those donations as they keep us afloat. We are not the greatest fundraisers. If you like what we do, please consider donating. It does cost money to pay our two employees and do what we do.

Next, that podcaster combined the total funding from several organizations including FAIR, both big and small, and compared that total amount with his personal $200,000+ salary. He talked about the millions of dollars of resources as if they were available to FAIR. First, revenue does not equal salary. Secondly, the entire presentation is flawed. For a comparison, let’s combine the revenue of Intel, Samsung, Hewlett Packard, and Nick and Tony’s local computer repair shop together and then have a discussion on how rich and powerful Nick and Tony must be because the combined group brings in millions of dollars. It is dishonest to do that. I’m amazed people bought into his argument. I know they did because they emailed me demanding answers.

Contrary to claims of that podcaster, the "LDS Church" doesn’t use us to spread misinformation. He makes the claim, "’Newer churches sometimes feel less comfortable with full information and with open/honest dialogue." He then shows The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Church of Scientology. The claim offends me in a couple of ways. First, he provides no evidence that The Church feels "less comfortable" with full information. There is a lot of evidence to the contrary—just think Joseph Smith papers. And secondly, we at FAIR try to make our information as accurate and open as possible. We deal with difficult topics. We believe that open dialogue is the best way to handle it, and we have done that since our beginnings. When, on occasion, misstatements have been pointed out to us, we try to immediately correct them. We are honest and transparent in all that we do. We back up our claims with footnotes. We check things with historians. The Church of Jesus Christ links to us as an alternative source of information from a non-affiliated group.

Concluding thoughts.

We do our best to provide the best information possible. We hope to be a place where you can fact check any claims, no matter what your belief in the Church might be.

We hope that you find our services valuable. We get thank you emails from time to time, and we really appreciate those. The only payment our volunteers receive is from receiving your thanks.

We look forward to many more years of providing truth against the false claims that continue to be repeated by a few internet influencers who seem to have no other purpose than to attack the Church or use misinformation to drag people away from the Church and their families. Why do they do it? I’m not sure. But I think that $200,000 salary plays a role.

 

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Thank you for sharing this. This is the first time that I will have had the opportunity to attend one of their conferences.

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2 days left -- discount ends June 20
 
Top Reasons to Join Us for the 2021 FAIR Conference
  1. "Sharpen the Saw" - learn new ideas, information and approaches to common questions
  2. Meet some of the most expert and influential scholars & authors
  3. Enjoy an auditorium full of people who share your interests - for the first time since the pandemic began. 
  4. It's a chance to focus on things that matter
  5. It will be fun!

And...just look at this schedule!


All In Person tickets include a welcome gift, lunch each day and access to the on-site bookstore and all presentations, as well as opportunities to meet and greet presenters, authors and FAIR leadership & volunteers.

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