Maestrophil Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) Hi all - I just got released form a calling and have been asked to meet with my wife this week with a member of the high council. I guess I have never thought about what callings could and do come from a High Council member vs from the Stake Presidency. What are your experiences? Edited to add - It probably isn't a call to the high council, right, since that would likely come from the SP? Edited May 17, 2021 by Maestrophil Link to comment
rongo Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 It's probably some sort of auxiliary thing. Typically, the calls to stake auxiliary presidencies would come from the SP or a counselor, but these can also be delegated out to the HC based on circumstances (rare). Think: trek or camp or something like that --- or a stake liason of some sort. 2 Link to comment
JustAnAustralian Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 You can have a look at the chart of callings to see which callings can be extended by a member of the High Council vs Member of Stake Presidency vs Stake President. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/general-handbook/30-callings-in-the-church?lang=eng#title_number13 4 Link to comment
rongo Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, JustAnAustralian said: You can have a look at the chart of callings to see which callings can be extended by a member of the High Council vs Member of Stake Presidency vs Stake President. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/general-handbook/30-callings-in-the-church?lang=eng#title_number13 This is guidance, but it's not set in stone (there are lots of exceptions that happen). I agree that it's probably one of the HC ones listed in the handbook --- but that's if it is strictly adhered to (probably). One of my stake presidents was a newly-called bishopric counselor, and the bishop was supposed to perform a civil marriage and was out of town. The SP told him to do it --- even though a counselor really doesn't have the authority. Lots of stories like this could be collected and shared. Most of the time, things are by the book, though. Maybe Maestro and wife are going to be the ARP couple. Or, teach mission prep. Things like that are usually extended by the HC. Edited May 17, 2021 by rongo Link to comment
Hamba Tuhan Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) I'm a member of the high council. My assignment two Sundays ago was to call a counsellor in the EQ presidency. You can see that in the chart JAA linked to. 34 minutes ago, rongo said: One of my stake presidents was a newly-called bishopric counselor, and the bishop was supposed to perform a civil marriage and was out of town. The SP told him to do it --- even though a counselor really doesn't have the authority. Lots of stories like this could be collected and shared. That wouldn't fly here. Our bishops when called have to register themselves with the national government as marriage celebrants. They and the stake president are the only ones to qualify. Edited May 17, 2021 by Hamba Tuhan Link to comment
bluebell Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Maestrophil said: Hi all - I just got released form a calling and have been asked to meet with my wife this week with a member of the high council. I guess I have never thought about what callings could and do come from a High Council member vs from the Stake Presidency. What are your experiences? Edited to add - It probably isn't a call to the high council, right, since that would likely come from the SP? Last two times that happens to me it was a calling to be a Ma on Trek and a calling to be an assistant camp director for girls camp. Link to comment
JustAnAustralian Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 1 hour ago, bluebell said: a calling to be a Ma on Trek I would like to be an old frail grandfather on a Trek so I can just sit in the handcart the whole time and have people pull me around which I eat. 3 Link to comment
InCognitus Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) 44 minutes ago, JustAnAustralian said: I would like to be an old frail grandfather on a Trek so I can just sit in the handcart the whole time and have people pull me around which I eat. Obviously a typo (a funny one at that, I think you intended it to say "while I eat" ), but thoughts of the Donner Party flashed through my mind when I read it. Then again, maybe that's not so funny. Edited May 17, 2021 by InCognitus 3 Link to comment
JustAnAustralian Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 4 hours ago, InCognitus said: Obviously a typo (a funny one at that, I think you intended it to say "while I eat" ), Yes yes I did. 4 hours ago, InCognitus said: Then again, maybe that's not so funny. Depends how you spin it to the youth. Link to comment
Kenngo1969 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 4 hours ago, JustAnAustralian said: I would like to be an old frail grandfather on a Trek so I can just sit in the handcart the whole time and have people pull me around which I eat. 3 hours ago, InCognitus said: Obviously a typo (a funny one at that, I think you intended it to say "while I eat" ), but thoughts of the Donner Party flashed through my mind when I read it. Then again, maybe that's not so funny. I wanted to link to the clip from Patch Adams of him with the "maitre'd"/skeleton: "Donner, party of 50!" Link to comment
bluebell Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 9 hours ago, JustAnAustralian said: I would like to be an old frail grandfather on a Trek so I can just sit in the handcart the whole time and have people pull me around which I eat. Thankfully I had a good excuse to say no to that request. They wanted my husband and I both to go and at the time we had two small children at home and no family in the state who could watch them. So sad. 2 Link to comment
ksfisher Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 12 hours ago, rongo said: It's probably some sort of auxiliary thing. Typically, the calls to stake auxiliary presidencies would come from the SP or a counselor, but these can also be delegated out to the HC based on circumstances (rare). Think: trek or camp or something like that --- or a stake liason of some sort. Depends on the stake presidency and how comfortable they are delegating. When I served on the high council I would extend callings and releases to EQ counselors, HP assistants, and assistant clerks. 1 Link to comment
Maestrophil Posted May 17, 2021 Author Share Posted May 17, 2021 Thanks for all the ideas. I'll return and let you know what it was after the meeting Wednesday. 🙂 1 Link to comment
Bernard Gui Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Maestrophil said: Thanks for all the ideas. I'll return and let you know what it was after the meeting Wednesday. 🙂 Probably will have something to do with SLC. 🙂 Link to comment
The Nehor Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) My tempter demon made me double post. Edited May 17, 2021 by The Nehor Link to comment
The Nehor Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 18 hours ago, JustAnAustralian said: I would like to be an old frail grandfather on a Trek so I can just sit in the handcart the whole time and have people pull me around which I eat. Edit: Whoops, should have scrolled down more. 3 Link to comment
Popular Post JAHS Posted May 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) 20 hours ago, rongo said: This is guidance, but it's not set in stone (there are lots of exceptions that happen). I agree that it's probably one of the HC ones listed in the handbook --- but that's if it is strictly adhered to (probably). One of my stake presidents was a newly-called bishopric counselor, and the bishop was supposed to perform a civil marriage and was out of town. The SP told him to do it --- even though a counselor really doesn't have the authority. Lots of stories like this could be collected and shared. Most of the time, things are by the book, though. Maybe Maestro and wife are going to be the ARP couple. Or, teach mission prep. Things like that are usually extended by the HC. Here is such a story. In the early 70's I was called on a mission to Austria and me and a few others in the stake were to be set apart at the same time. The Stake President was sick at the time so he asked one of his counselors to do it. It was a very nice spiritual meeting and great blessings were given. After I got to the the Salt Lake mission home (yes I am that old) I was called into the office of the mission president who told me that I was not really set apart yet because only the Stake President could do that. So he sent me over to the Church office building and Elder John H Groberg of the Seventy set me apart and even invited my mother to it. 🙂 Edited May 17, 2021 by JAHS 5 Link to comment
rongo Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 1 hour ago, JAHS said: Here is such a story. In the early 70's I was called on a mission to Austria and me and a few others in the stake were to be set apart at the same time. The Stake President was sick at the time so he asked one of his counselors to do it. It was a very nice spiritual meeting and great blessings were given. After I got to the the Salt Lake mission home (yes I am that old) I was called into the office of the mission president who told me that I was not really set apart yet because only the Stake President could do that. So he sent me over to the Church office building and Elder John H Groberg of the Seventy set me apart and even invited my mother to it. 🙂 My son actually **was** set apart by the stake president counselor --- by design (delegation). I'm pretty sure it's still supposed to be the stake president, except in extreme cases, but this was routine delegation among them. We didn't say anything. Link to comment
Hamba Tuhan Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 3 hours ago, rongo said: My son actually **was** set apart by the stake president counselor --- by design (delegation). I'm pretty sure it's still supposed to be the stake president, except in extreme cases, but this was routine delegation among them. We didn't say anything. From the Handbook: Quote 24.5.3 Setting Apart Missionaries The home stake president sets apart each missionary as close as possible to his or her mission start date. In urgent cases when the stake president is unavailable, he may authorize one of his counselors to set apart missionaries. 2 Link to comment
rongo Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 8 hours ago, Hamba Tuhan said: From the Handbook: Oh, I know. It was a choice on his part --- not an "urgent case when the stake president is unavailable." He was in-town --- he just wanted his counselor to do it. Link to comment
Amulek Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) On 5/16/2021 at 9:45 PM, rongo said: It's probably some sort of auxiliary thing. Typically, the calls to stake auxiliary presidencies would come from the SP or a counselor, but these can also be delegated out to the HC based on circumstances (rare). Think: trek or camp or something like that --- or a stake liason of some sort. Seminary teacher could also be an option. Ward clerk (or assistant clerk) and executive secretary are possibilities as well. Oh, or maybe a stake family history specialist of some sort. The only thing you know for sure is that, since it's coming from a HC, you're definitely not in the running for the absolute best calling available in the church: nursery worker. Edited May 18, 2021 by Amulek 1 Link to comment
Maestrophil Posted May 18, 2021 Author Share Posted May 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Amulek said: Seminary teacher could also be an option. Ward clerk (or assistant clerk) and executive secretary are possibilities as well. Oh, or maybe a stake family history specialist of some sort. The only thing you know for sure is that, since it's coming from a HC, you're definitely not in the running for the absolute best calling available in the church: nursery worker. I know - I have had that call several times and it is the best. I miss bringing my guitar and singing with the kids, and snacks... 🙂 1 Link to comment
bluebell Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 5 hours ago, Amulek said: The only thing you know for sure is that, since it's coming from a HC, you're definitely not in the running for the absolute best calling available in the church: nursery worker. If I was called to nursery leader I would struggle not to go inactive. Link to comment
rongo Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, bluebell said: If I was called to nursery leader I would struggle not to go inactive. It's pretty fun --- especially if you can do it with your spouse. Plus, it's only 50 minutes now, not 2 hours. 4 Link to comment
bluebell Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, rongo said: It's pretty fun --- especially if you can do it with your spouse. Plus, it's only 50 minutes now, not 2 hours. No. Not my idea of fun. Especially not during the time of life where the (then) two hours after sacrament were the only two hours the entire week I was not taking care of toddlers and could interact with other adults. 4 Link to comment
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