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1 hour ago, Metis_LDS said:

I am not a conspiracy kind of person.  I had a thought the other day that if you really believe the Book of Mormon you cannot state the following:                    All conspiracy theories are false.

Sure you can. Once a conspiracy has been exposed, it ceases to be a conspiracy theory and is just a conspiracy. 

Honestly, believers in plain reality can't really say that either. "The President of the United States is having operatives burgle the HQ of his political rivals" sounds like a super whacky conspiracy theory...until Watergate. 

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3 hours ago, Metis_LDS said:

I am not a conspiracy kind of person.  I had a thought the other day that if you really believe the Book of Mormon you cannot state the following:                    All conspiracy theories are false.

Yeah, all conspiracy theories are not false. Do you believe all ‘conspiracy theories’ are false?What/who determines what is or is not a ‘conspiracy theory?’ 

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5 hours ago, Metis_LDS said:

I am not a conspiracy kind of person.  I had a thought the other day that if you really believe the Book of Mormon you cannot state the following:                    All conspiracy theories are false.

Why not? Because of the Gadiantons? They were supposedly secret but it was a very open secret. In the Book of Mormon they are a bunch of bungling incompetents that are constantly screwing everything up and they are plagued with infighting. The warning in the Book of Mormon is not to join with them or uphold them. The Book of Mormon doesn’t suggest you have to spend a lot of time deducing who they are or what their goals are. They are pretty blatant.

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Thank you to all those who have replied.  All conspiracy theories are false was meant to say that people really have not changed since the Book of Mormon times.  So we will continue to have conspiracies.   It is a thought that I and maybe others do not like but it is a human practice we cannot get rid of in society.

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I think few would say all conspiracy theories are false. Human nature, greed for power etc show us that some are likely to be true.  I think most would just say that few of the conspiracy theories out there are true.

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6 hours ago, The Nehor said:

Why not? Because of the Gadiantons? They were supposedly secret but it was a very open secret. In the Book of Mormon they are a bunch of bungling incompetents that are constantly screwing everything up and they are plagued with infighting. The warning in the Book of Mormon is not to join with them or uphold them. The Book of Mormon doesn’t suggest you have to spend a lot of time deducing who they are or what their goals are. They are pretty blatant.

They are blatant to us because we have hindsight from both a prophet who wrote about them and who gathered just the most important things to include in the final record.  It may not been as obvious in real time.  

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13 hours ago, Metis_LDS said:

I am not a conspiracy kind of person.  I had a thought the other day that if you really believe the Book of Mormon you cannot state the following:                    All conspiracy theories are false.

Conspiracy is the noun form of the verb to conspire. Conspiracies have abounded and will continue to do so; I do believe, however, that they are still far outweighed by false conspiracy theories.

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8 minutes ago, latterdaytemplar said:

Conspiracy is the noun form of the verb to conspire. Conspiracies have abounded and will continue to do so; I do believe, however, that they are still far outweighed by false conspiracy theories.

Yes the best ones only will only come out when God reveals them.  If I meet someone and they start talking about conspiracies my test for them goes like this.  Lets agree for the moment that what you say is correct, what should we do about it.  Depending on their answer I know if it is a big part of their life or not.

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11 hours ago, Freedom said:

well frankly nobody can say all conspiracy theories are false because that would suggest that there never has been a conspiracy. The whole premise of this thread is rather strange. 

It’s not at all strange because the people have been hearing about “crazy”, “kooky,” “ridiculous,” “conspiracy theories” for so long no that tens of millions believe any claims of conspiracy should be dismissed out of hand without giving a second thought. What a perfect environment for the devil to pull off all kinds of real diabolical conspiracies when so many believe, “I am no devil there is none.”

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5 hours ago, Metis_LDS said:

Thank you to all those who have replied.  All conspiracy theories are false was meant to say that people really have not changed since the Book of Mormon times.  So we will continue to have conspiracies.   It is a thought that I and maybe others do not like but it is a human practice we cannot get rid of in society.

Yes, and the assassination of Pres Lincoln was a large conspiracy targeting several members of his administration.  There are plenty of sub rosa conspiracies in modern times, just as there were in ancient times (Julius Caesar being a notable victim).  Most conspiracies are unknown to the common people.  Most of them by special operations units at the behest of intelligence agencies worldwide.  Some are operated by large corporations or cartels.  For money or strategic political and military advantage.  Those conspiracies are very much with us today, operating in all the cities of the world, trafficking humans, drugs, guns, information, and what have you.

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12 hours ago, bsjkki said:

Yeah, all conspiracy theories are not false. Do you believe all ‘conspiracy theories’ are false?What/who determines what is or is not a ‘conspiracy theory?’ 

I believe in the Book of Mormon so there are conspiracies and some theories may not be false.  A conspiracy theory is an idea about a group of people,  it is an idea or theory because one of the hardest things to prove is conspiracy.  The ultimate proof is someone within the conspiracy to give real evidence.  

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