Ahab Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Rain said: You know, it really isn't a salad without jello. Molded Asparagus Salad I needed to see a picture because my mind was having a very hard time imagining a tasty looking molded asparagus salad. Still not easy but the picture helps a little bit. Link to comment
Bernard Gui Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 55 minutes ago, Ahab said: I needed to see a picture because my mind was having a very hard time imagining a tasty looking molded asparagus salad. Still not easy but the picture helps a little bit. No. 1 Link to comment
Ahab Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, Bernard Gui said: No. What's not to like? I might also want to add some smoked salmon to it. 1 cup sliced fresh asparagus 1 can (10-3/4 ounces) condensed cream of asparagus soup, undiluted 1 package (8 ounces) cream cheese, cubed 1 package (3 ounces) lemon gelatin 1 cup boiling water 1/2 teaspoon lemon extract 1/2 cup diced celery 1/2 cup diced green pepper 2 teaspoons finely chopped onion 2 teaspoons diced pimientos 1/2 cup finely chopped pecans 1/2 cup mayonnaise Celery leaves Chopped pimientos Lemon slice 1 Link to comment
pogi Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Ahab said: Looks about as appetizing as a nice hefty serving of abdominal adipose tissue (it has a strange resemblance). And that is exactly what it will likely turn into after looking at the ingredients. How they get away with calling this asparagus salad is beyond me. Edited September 10, 2020 by pogi 2 Link to comment
Ahab Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 15 minutes ago, pogi said: Looks about as appetizing as a nice hefty serving of abdominal adipose tissue (it has a strange resemblance). And that is exactly what it will likely turn into after looking at the ingredients. How they get away with calling this asparagus salad is beyond me. It's getting to the point where I feel like I can't take you to any of my parties. But that's okay. It just means I'll have more to enjoy while you will miss out. I think I would rather call it a smoked salmon and asparagus dip, though, after I add smoked salmon to it. 1 Link to comment
Bernard Gui Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ahab said: What's not to like? I might also want to add some smoked salmon to it. 1 cup sliced fresh asparagus 1 can (10-3/4 ounces) condensed cream of asparagus soup, undiluted 1 package (8 ounces) cream cheese, cubed 1 package (3 ounces) lemon gelatin 1 cup boiling water 1/2 teaspoon lemon extract 1/2 cup diced celery 1/2 cup diced green pepper 2 teaspoons finely chopped onion 2 teaspoons diced pimientos 1/2 cup finely chopped pecans 1/2 cup mayonnaise Celery leaves Chopped pimientos Lemon slice Lemon Jello with asparagus soup. Nope. Doing that to smoked salmon is a capital offense in Washington. Somebody get a rope. Edited September 10, 2020 by Bernard Gui 3 Link to comment
Ahab Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bernard Gui said: Lemon Jello with asparagus soup. Nope. Doing that to smoked salmon is a capital offense in Washington. Ah, I think see now. You're one of those people who would rather cast an aspersion on jello. Either that or on cream of asparagus soup, which is essentially cream with asparagus in it. Either that or on cream cheese, or on veggies, or on mayonnaise. I've heard about people like you. And I live in Washington state, and I plan to probably make that concoction sometime in the near future, with smoked salmon in it. So go ahead and call the Police! I won't bother to invite you to my party. Just think of it! We could have maybe eaten this together while watching General Conference together! But No! You would rather cast an aspersion on this concoction when we could have been happy together! 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Bede Posted September 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 11, 2020 On 9/9/2020 at 7:44 AM, stemelbow said: [blah blah blah only in it to amass huge wealth blah blah typical whining] Hey Stem: when I was unemployed for a whole year the church paid my mortgage and fed my family, so get that sh** outta here. You have no clue what you’re talking about. 8 Link to comment
Popular Post Maidservant Posted September 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 11, 2020 I don't know if they will talk about it or have it ready by this conference, but the church is preparing an Emotional Resilience Manual, to help members be prepared and whole emotionally. I feel this is great because I have often wanted the Church to get into the details of how to really be healed instead of vague religious efforts. 7 Link to comment
Bernard Gui Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, Ahab said: Ah, I think see now. You're one of those people who would rather cast an aspersion on jello. Either that or on cream of asparagus soup, which is essentially cream with asparagus in it. Either that or on cream cheese, or on veggies, or on mayonnaise. I've heard about people like you. And I live in Washington state, and I plan to probably make that concoction sometime in the near future, with smoked salmon in it. So go ahead and call the Police! I won't bother to invite you to my party. Just think of it! We could have maybe eaten this together while watching General Conference together! But No! You would rather cast an aspersion on this concoction when we could have been happy together! Not at all. I love Jello. I also love chocolate eclairs...maybe too much! But I don't smother them with sautéed onions and eat them slathered in catsup and dijon mustard. Smoked salmon, besides being very expensive, must be treated with great respect. It is offensive to wash your hands after eating a chunk. I would be happy to sit through Conference with you while eating a big jar of kimchee. I'm in Puyallup...you? There are some great Korean restaurants on South Tacoma Way just a couple of miles away........... Edited September 11, 2020 by Bernard Gui 2 Link to comment
stemelbow Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, Bede said: Hey Stem: when I was unemployed for a whole year the church paid my mortgage and fed my family, so get that sh** outta here. You have no clue what you’re talking about. Hey bede, looks like you set up an ugly non sequitur. Why is it I don't know what im taling about if the church helped you? Indeed it seems the church got a lot richer the very year it supported you., no? Edited September 11, 2020 by stemelbow Link to comment
gav Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 On 9/11/2020 at 7:31 PM, stemelbow said: Indeed it seems the church got a lot richer the very year it supported you., no? Karma? Link to comment
Tacenda Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 On 9/10/2020 at 6:16 PM, Bede said: Hey Stem: when I was unemployed for a whole year the church paid my mortgage and fed my family, so get that sh** outta here. You have no clue what you’re talking about. You're one of the lucky ones, some bishops have turned people away, or I've heard. I've been in callings that if someone needed help they were to help back, which is fine, was this asked of you? This particular situation was to clean the church before members starting doing this. Which again is fine, for the recipient to feel better especially. But what about the stipulation that one must pay their tithes, so that forces one to not be able to pay some bills in order to pay tithing, so the church should be obligated to help out when the occasion occurs. I'm sure the many years you've paid tithing, the church's billions earned millions of interest. But glad you were able to keep your home and feed your family, I'm being sincere. Link to comment
Popular Post Bill “Papa” Lee Posted September 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Tacenda said: You're one of the lucky ones, some bishops have turned people away, or I've heard. I've been in callings that if someone needed help they were to help back, which is fine, was this asked of you? This particular situation was to clean the church before members starting doing this. Which again is fine, for the recipient to feel better especially. But what about the stipulation that one must pay their tithes, so that forces one to not be able to pay some bills in order to pay tithing, so the church should be obligated to help out when the occasion occurs. I'm sure the many years you've paid tithing, the church's billions earned millions of interest. But glad you were able to keep your home and feed your family, I'm being sincere. People are seldom ever turned away, usually only when someone is abusing the system the Church has in place. The reason for asking those receiving help to help in return, “to clean the building”, or help at the “Bishop’s Store House“, is to instill a sense of service, as well as to restore some dignity. It is very stressful for people to ask for help, and in turn serving others, helps to take some of that stress away. The reason for members being asked to pay their tithing, is because the Church truly believes and knows it can (and does) “open up the windows of heaven”. In many cases, and I mean “many” in my different callings over the last 40+ years,, some receive a lot of assistance. There have been many, many Sunday’s, where I have seen someone who was asked to pay their tithing, where the offering was (say) $250.00, but the amount we issued checks for on the same day to be, $3,000+, along with food orders. Some receiving food orders for months, where the amount of food, far and away equals more than their tithing. In addition, much of the Church’s revenue is from the interest, and rate of return, so money comes it very quickly. This allows for circumstances we face this year, where the needs of members is aggravated due to COVID-19, and many having almost nothing. I know for a fact that the Church is keeping many in our Ward, like never before in their homes, and their cars, and fed. The Church continues to be good stewards of all, that our once improvised Church did not have, and was unable to do much. Our leadership is always looking to the day, when things become even worse than they are now. Tithing is way down, but the assistance being given to members is up in these difficult times. Sadly, there are even more difficult times ahead, and due to the Church’s holdings, they will be able to meet those needs. In short they practice what they preach, and will continue to do so, this way when those difficult times come, we can and will weather the storm. Many who seek help, do not pay a full tithe, and in my experience the larger portion do not, but we still help, and will continue to do so. 10 Link to comment
longview Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 On 9/9/2020 at 7:46 AM, bluebell said: I haven’t heard anything. I think people are to weary dealing with COVID to dream up drama for GC. And all the attendant bannings on certain board participants. 1 Link to comment
The Nehor Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 On 9/10/2020 at 2:51 PM, Thinking said: Wendy is pregnant. Wow, does that make his previous son an Ishmael equivalent? Ouch. Link to comment
Tacenda Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 It might more of this, which would be fine with me. Link to comment
Popular Post Hamba Tuhan Posted September 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2020 8 hours ago, Tacenda said: You're one of the lucky ones, some bishops have turned people away, or I've heard (emphasis added). In other words, you're repeating salacious gossip. Quote I've been in callings that if someone needed help they were to help back, which is fine ... Of course it's fine. When I've served in bishoprics, the offer to let someone 'give back' through service was always joyfully received and is intended to make the experience more pleasant by ensuring dignity and worth. I can assure you that when an individual is not in the position to do anything, nothing is expected. This is not some kind of cruel quid pro quo. Quote But what about the stipulation that one must pay their tithes, so that forces one to not be able to pay some bills in order to pay tithing, so the church should be obligated to help out when the occasion occurs. As you and I have discussed many times on this forum, tithing is a commandment from the Lord that carries tremendous blessings. (A certain Biblical prophet stated that the faithful payment of tithes opens the windows of heaven; in contrast, failing to live this law equals robbing God.) Of course we want people to tithe first to secure those blessings. And yes, based on repeated personal experience, assistance is always given to those who need it. 8 Link to comment
Scott Lloyd Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 On 9/11/2020 at 9:48 AM, Maidservant said: I don't know if they will talk about it or have it ready by this conference, but the church is preparing an Emotional Resilience Manual, to help members be prepared and whole emotionally. I feel this is great because I have often wanted the Church to get into the details of how to really be healed instead of vague religious efforts. I hope you’re right. I guess time will tell. But I, for one, would welcome more from the Church in the way of self-help instruction for emotional healing. Years ago, Elder Boyd K. Packer (how I miss him and his candid, no-nonsense approach) warned of what he saw as a growing epidemic of “counselitis” in the Church, an inclination to go running off to some therapist or other when what was really needed was greater self-initiative based on personal understanding. In all too many instances, Elder Packer said, the help that was offered exacerbated the very problem it purported to cure. 2 Link to comment
Scott Lloyd Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 6 hours ago, longview said: And all the attendant bannings on certain board participants. ????? 1 Link to comment
Bede Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 On 9/11/2020 at 11:31 AM, stemelbow said: Hey bede, looks like you set up an ugly non sequitur. Why is it I don't know what im taling about if the church helped you? Indeed it seems the church got a lot richer the very year it supported you., no? It didn’t get richer from me. The church has money so it can do these things. It’s also one of the leading providers of emergency supplies when natural disasters occur. It’s also one of the biggest charities. I know you have some sort of weird axe to grind, but dude, get a new hobby. 2 Link to comment
Bede Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 16 hours ago, Tacenda said: You're one of the lucky ones, some bishops have turned people away, or I've heard. I've been in callings that if someone needed help they were to help back, which is fine, was this asked of you? This particular situation was to clean the church before members starting doing this. Which again is fine, for the recipient to feel better especially. But what about the stipulation that one must pay their tithes, so that forces one to not be able to pay some bills in order to pay tithing, so the church should be obligated to help out when the occasion occurs. I'm sure the many years you've paid tithing, the church's billions earned millions of interest. But glad you were able to keep your home and feed your family, I'm being sincere. I doubt that’s true. There is no reason for me to be “lucky.” I don’t have any special properties or live in any special area to be lucky. 4 Link to comment
Popular Post rchorse Posted September 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2020 I turned people away for help as a Bishop. It was always for one of two reasons. Either they were verifiably lying to me to get money and other resources, or they failed to do their part in terms of looking for work or eliminating unnecessary expenditures. Giving too much, especially when someone is not doing their part, is not helping. It's creating a disability of dependency. I know that made me an uncaring monster for many, but I have no regrets. I saw many people become independent that had been on government and church assistance for years. 9 Link to comment
Tacenda Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bede said: I doubt that’s true. There is no reason for me to be “lucky.” I don’t have any special properties or live in any special area to be lucky. I should not have used the word "lucky" I guess. It's just that every bishop is different, that's more what I meant. Edited September 13, 2020 by Tacenda Link to comment
Popular Post Bernard Gui Posted September 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, rchorse said: I turned people away for help as a Bishop. It was always for one of two reasons. Either they were verifiably lying to me to get money and other resources, or they failed to do their part in terms of looking for work or eliminating unnecessary expenditures. Giving too much, especially when someone is not doing their part, is not helping. It's creating a disability of dependency. I know that made me an uncaring monster for many, but I have no regrets. I saw many people become independent that had been on government and church assistance for years. My experience also. Like any assistance program, it can be used beneficially or it can be abused. It was difficult to wean people off the system who over a period years had become dependent on it. Some were offended and thought this was cruel. A few recipients chafed when asked to give time for service, but most gladly pitched in. One sister asking for DI help became irate when I suggested she could save money by eliminating the payments on a large television set. Before the Church started designating one bishop in a stake as the “transient bishop,” people claiming to be members would come asking for assistance, but would in fact be playing a scam on several bishops in the area. When I received such a request from someone claiming to be a member, I would ask about their baptism. One fellow said he was baptized wearing his swimming suit in in a swimming pool. This was in the days before computerized membership records. On the other hand, I have known many folks who consider it a blessing to contribute much more than the “two meals” amount, and I know many who have been blessed by receiving assistance the Lord’s way. If widely observed, the fast offering concept could eliminate poverty. Edited September 13, 2020 by Bernard Gui 6 Link to comment
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