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I know the true good news is we are all going to be Resurrected. What I want to know is is where is all the news articles on the vaccines that are being made to fight Covid-19. I see news articles on antibody test so we can Mark everyone that is safe to move about the country but where are the vaccine articles?

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8 hours ago, rodheadlee said:

I know the true good news is we are all going to be Resurrected. What I want to know is is where is all the news articles on the vaccines that are being made to fight Covid-19. I see news articles on antibody test so we can Mark everyone that is safe to move about the country but where are the vaccine articles?

The vaccine will not be ready for about a year, if it even works.

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On 4/12/2020 at 6:43 PM, Maureen said:

But no mention of hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine?  News reports seem to show their effectiveness.  Vaccines take too much time to develop (too often the side effects are dangerous).  Herd immunity is required to protect the population with rates exceeding 98%.  Those vulnerable need to take measures to self isolate.  People NEED to get back to work.  Truck drivers are now being denied the usual services of truck stops, showers, rest areas. etc.  Those drivers need support to deliver essential supplies.  I think May first we should start returning to 3/4 normalcy.

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15 minutes ago, longview said:

News reports seem to show their effectiveness. 

They shouldn't, at least not without more studies as two show no effect and two do for the first drug:

https://www.drugs.com/medical-answers/hydroxychloroquine-effective-covid-19-3536024/

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Despite mounting pressure to make hydroxychloroquine (Plaquenil) more widely available in the US, the inconvenient truth is that we still don’t know for sure if it is effective in patients with COVID-19, the disease caused by the new coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2). Many people are understandably being influenced by anecdotal reports on Twitter and in the news, but what we really need is proof from large clinical trials. In the absence of such proof, here’s what we know so far...

Considering the side effects and the need of patients with problems the drugs are known to be effective for, not a good idea to prescribe for less than last resort effort if that, imo.

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There’s now a shortage of hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine, which means that people who normally take these medications to manage their health are having a harder time getting the treatment they need.

https://www.goodrx.com/blog/coronavirus-medicine-chloroquine-hydroxychloroquine-as-covid19-treatment/

Side effects:

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Hydroxychloroquine, approved in 1955, is typically preferred over chloroquine because it has fewer side effects. Side effects for both medications, which are more common at higher doses and with long-term use, include:

Irreversible visual changes

Long QT or QT prolongation (abnormal heart rhythm)

Muscle weakness or nerve pain

Hypoglycemia (low blood glucose)

Worsening of psoriasis

 

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2 minutes ago, Calm said:

They shouldn't, at least not without more studies as two show no effect and two do for the first drug:

https://www.drugs.com/medical-answers/hydroxychloroquine-effective-covid-19-3536024/

Why the caution?  These have been used for decades for prevention of malaria.  It is not gambling.  Patients should have the option for taking them with the guidance of their primary care doctors.

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16 minutes ago, longview said:

Truck drivers are now being denied the usual services of truck stops, showers, rest areas. etc. 

Is this because of shortage or refusal out of fear of infection to  serve them?  I have seen reports of the latter.

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7 minutes ago, longview said:

Why the caution?  These have been used for decades for prevention of malaria.  It is not gambling.  Patients should have the option for taking them with the guidance of their primary care doctors.

So risk your eyesight and death just in case they help and deprive an actual sufferer of malaria from certain help because it might help you?  Rather selfish and stupid except as last resort, imo.

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https://www.poison.org/articles/chloroquine-hydroxychloroquine

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Two old drugs used for malaria, chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, are being studied for their potential to treat coronavirus disease of 2019 (COVID-19). Side effects from these drugs can be very serious and include irregular heart rhythms that can result in death.

 

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1 minute ago, Calm said:

So risk your eyesight just in case they help and deprive an actual sufferer of malaria from certain help because it might help you?  Rather selfish, imo.

Are you saying those drugs are difficult to manufacture?   Because they are generic drugs?  There are companies that are restarting their dormant facilities to make those pills.  They need to be taken only if symptoms develop, all taken under the guidance of physicians.  If you are concerned about 3rd world peoples depending on this medicine, most likely the existing sources will continue to maintain their production and delivery (with the double benefit of malaria prevention and treating symptoms of COVID-19).

http://newsroom.mylan.com/2020-03-19-Mylan-Ramps-Up-U-S-Manufacturing-of-Hydroxychloroquine-Sulfate-Tablets-to-Meet-Potential-COVID-19-Patient-Needs

" - - - Mylan's hydroxychloroquine sulfate tablets are approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for the treatment of malaria, lupus erythematosus and rheumatoid arthritis. Although the product is not currently approved for use in the treatment of COVID-19, it is listed by the World Health Organization as a drug under investigation for efficacy against the coronavirus[1]. The company is also taking steps to initiate production of this product outside the U.S. in the coming weeks. - - -"
" - - - Mylan expects to be in a position to begin supplying product by mid-April, and with the active pharmaceutical ingredient that we currently have available, will be able to ramp up manufacturing to provide 50 million tablets to potentially treat a total of more than 1.5 million patients. - - -"

https://www.barrons.com/articles/hydroxychloroquine-generic-drugmakers-demand-spikes-covid-19-french-study-lupus-51585056712

" - - - Fadia wrote that 10.2 million hydroxychloroquine pills were sold in the week ending March 13, according to data-science company Iqvia, well above the average weekly volume of 8.5 million pills.
"Approved for use to prevent malaria and to treat some auto-immunte diseases, hydroxychloroquine is manufactured by a number of generic-drug makers. In her note, Fadia outlined the plans of a number of the largest generic manufacturers to increase their output of hydroxychloroquine pills, though the sales wouldn’t have a substantial impact on the companies. - - -"

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