Avatar4321 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 I’ve been listening to a book on the history of Christianity throput throughout the world. It has me thinking about missionary work for our Church and how we’ve barely scratched the surface. I want to do my part to share the gospel and it seems nothing I do has any impact whatsoever. What can we do to actually impact the missionary effort? Especially since I’m not a young rooster any more Link to comment
Avatar4321 Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 Can’t. I’m married with young children Link to comment
SouthernMo Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Avatar4321 said: I’ve been listening to a book on the history of Christianity throput throughout the world. It has me thinking about missionary work for our Church and how we’ve barely scratched the surface. I want to do my part to share the gospel and it seems nothing I do has any impact whatsoever. What can we do to actually impact the missionary effort? Especially since I’m not a young rooster any more I’ve found preaching Christianity (Atonement) rather than a focus on Mormonism (Joseph Smith, Book of Mormon, Word of Wisdom, etc...) is more effective. 1 Link to comment
Hamba Tuhan Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) I've shared with you my formula before: Live up to your privileges so that you actually have something to share. We should be having experiences as Latter-day Saints that others will covet if known. Do genuinely good things. Invite other people to join you (and your family) in doing good things. When/as the Spirit directs, share with those people how the gospel blesses your life. Edited January 11, 2019 by Hamba Tuhan 2 Link to comment
carbon dioxide Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) In a world that is becoming more wicked, we should not look at numbers to see if we are being effective missionaries. Noah did not convert many but that does not mean he was not a good missionary. Edited January 11, 2019 by carbon dioxide Link to comment
Hamba Tuhan Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, carbon dioxide said: In a world that is becoming more wicked, we should not look at numbers to see if we are being effective missionaries. But we can certainly consider if we are being effective missionaries. I suspect most of us could be far better. 1 Link to comment
Avatar4321 Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 40 minutes ago, carbon dioxide said: In a world that is becoming more wicked, we should not look at numbers to see if we are being effective missionaries. Noah did not convert many but that does not mean he was not a good missionary. I’m not sure I’d be good if I looked at other criteria Link to comment
Avatar4321 Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Hamba Tuhan said: I've shared with you my formula before: Live up to your privileges so that you actually have something to share. We should be having experiences as Latter-day Saints that others will covet if known. Do genuinely good things. Invite other people to join you (and your family) in doing good things. When/as the Spirit directs, share with those people how the gospel blesses your life. I think I’m tripping over one and two Link to comment
Avatar4321 Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 3 hours ago, SouthernMo said: I’ve found preaching Christianity (Atonement) rather than a focus on Mormonism (Joseph Smith, Book of Mormon, Word of Wisdom, etc...) is more effective. How do we bring the fullness of the gospel into their lives if we ignore important parts? Link to comment
The Nehor Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 39 minutes ago, Hamba Tuhan said: But we can certainly consider if we are being effective missionaries. I suspect most of us could be far better. Maybe but remember the Savior himself could not convince most so do not go nuts with optimism about what we could do. Link to comment
Hamba Tuhan Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Avatar4321 said: I think I’m tripping over one and two That’s often the case for many of us. When it’s not, the work is often quite easy. Link to comment
Hamba Tuhan Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, The Nehor said: Do not go nuts with optimism about what we could do. Except that I know from personal experience what we can do. Link to comment
The Nehor Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Hamba Tuhan said: Except that I know from personal experience what we can do. Yeah, but I am pretty awful at missionary work. I did a good job last night shredding all the old documents in the clerk’s office. We all have our strengths. Link to comment
Avatar4321 Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, The Nehor said: Maybe but remember the Savior himself could not convince most so do not go nuts with optimism about what we could do. I don’t think it was the saviors purpose to convince most. He left in much of that to his disciples. His earthly ministry was focused on training the disciples who would run the church after him and on the atonement. I don’t know what we can do, but I think we can do more than we are. I feel like I can 1 Link to comment
Avatar4321 Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, The Nehor said: Yeah, but I am pretty awful at missionary work. I did a good job last night shredding all the old documents in the clerk’s office. We all have our strengths. The Lord has promised to thrash the nations by the Spirit through the weak things of the world. We probably qualify Link to comment
The Nehor Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Avatar4321 said: I don’t think it was the saviors purpose to convince most. He left in much of that to his disciples. His earthly ministry was focused on training the disciples who would run the church after him and on the atonement. I don’t know what we can do, but I think we can do more than we are. I feel like I can Maybe. We watched a video on Sunday about Jesus giving the parable of the sower to the people and then he started explaining to the apostles how the people could not understand it but the apostles can......in the same volume of voice he used when preaching. My thought was “Dude, the crowd can hear you. They are still right there.” So maybe that is why he had trouble converting people? Edited January 11, 2019 by The Nehor Link to comment
The Nehor Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Avatar4321 said: The Lord has promised to thrash the nations by the Spirit through the weak things of the world. We probably qualify And I do. I have gifts that God has used with power. I wish he would do more of it. Link to comment
SouthernMo Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 22 minutes ago, Avatar4321 said: How do we bring the fullness of the gospel into their lives if we ignore important parts? I don’t mean to sound flippant, but does it matter if you have the fullness if no one wants to listen to it? Link to comment
Hamba Tuhan Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 44 minutes ago, SouthernMo said: I don’t mean to sound flippant, but does it matter if you have the fullness if no one wants to listen to it? Exactly! And if it isn't apparent that having it works better than not. Link to comment
sunstoned Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 4 hours ago, The Nehor said: Go on a mission. 😜 1 hour ago, carbon dioxide said: In a world that is becoming more wicked, we should not look at numbers to see if we are being effective missionaries. Noah did not convert many but that does not mean he was not a good missionary. I do not accept the old standard mormon chestnut that the world is getting more wicked day by day. Reality just does not support that. While we are not perfect, right now, this very minute, is the best time to be alive on this planet. This is a much better time than any other time in history. Hunger is down, disease is down and crime is down. Here is one example: Quote The rate of reported violent crime has fallen since a high of 758.20 reported crimes in 1991 to a low of 361.6 reported violent crimes in 2014. https://www.statista.com/statistics/191219/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/ It is true that more and more people are finding religion, including Mormonism, unattractive. It is also true that more people have become more inclusive and have shown increased support of basic civil human rights. This however, does does not equate to wickedness. Link to comment
Hamba Tuhan Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) Duplicate. Edited January 11, 2019 by Hamba Tuhan 1 Link to comment
Hamba Tuhan Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, sunstoned said: Hunger is down, disease is down and crime is down. Global poverty rates are at the lowest level ever recorded, too! Edited January 11, 2019 by Hamba Tuhan 1 Link to comment
sunstoned Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Hamba Tuhan said: Let's not forget that global poverty rates are at their lowest level ever recorded, too! Yes, I think we are doing something right! Edited January 11, 2019 by sunstoned Link to comment
Hamba Tuhan Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, sunstoned said: Yes, I think we are doing something right! And we need to do more of it! Link to comment
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