cinepro Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 (edited) From the "Too many were called, fewer should have been chosen" file: LDS Missionaries Part of Shrine Vandalism Investigation Quote Deputies are investigating allegations that LDS missionaries may have decapitated a statue of a Mexican martyr and mocked a Catholic shrine in the San Luis Valley of southern Colorado. Photos surfaced on the Internet last week showing young men holding the statue's severed head, preaching from an altar and pretending to sacrifice each other at the Shrine of the Mexican Martyrs. Edited July 26, 2018 by cinepro Link to comment
rongo Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Didn't this happen years ago? Or did different missionaries do this again? Years ago, they had to close the area. The similarities are such that I suspect this might just be a re-release of the same photos on social media. 3 Link to comment
Jane_Doe Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 17 minutes ago, rongo said: Didn't this happen years ago? Or did different missionaries do this again? The story is a decade old. The missionaries were disciplined and relations have been repaired. 2 Link to comment
poptart Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 4 hours ago, cinepro said: From the "Too many were called, fewer should have been chosen" file: LDS Missionaries Part of Shrine Vandalism Investigation Old news. Curious, did photos of the vandalism pop up in social media? Link to comment
Glenn101 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 5 hours ago, cinepro said: From the "Too many were called, fewer should have been chosen" file: LDS Missionaries Part of Shrine Vandalism Investigation Why bring this up now? Ten years later??? Link to comment
strappinglad Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 In other breaking news... President shot in Dallas 3 Link to comment
Robert F. Smith Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 "Missionary Work In Southern Colorado Set Back 50 Years" Does this mean that we have another 40 years left on that sentence? 3 Link to comment
Popular Post snowflake Posted July 27, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2018 Unfortunately, young kids do stupid crap all the time, LDS, EV's, JW's, Catholics, .....thank God they usually grow out of such nonsense! 5 Link to comment
Robert F. Smith Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 3 hours ago, snowflake said: Unfortunately, young kids do stupid crap all the time, LDS, EV's, JW's, Catholics, .....thank God they usually grow out of such nonsense! Yes. And this means that in many jurisdictions, one is not allowed to be a law enforcement officer until age 21. The younger guys just don't have enough maturity. That applies to driving vehicles safely, managing personal relationships (dating and marriage), etc. So is it really a good idea to send guys out on missions so early? The women seem to do so much better than the guys. 1 Link to comment
cinepro Posted July 28, 2018 Author Share Posted July 28, 2018 (edited) On 7/26/2018 at 10:18 PM, strappinglad said: In other breaking news... President shot in Dallas It just popped up on Facebook and I obviously didn't check the date... Edited July 28, 2018 by cinepro 2 Link to comment
Duncan Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 My friend was the AP in that mission and had just finished serving there just prior to this hitting the fan! he said he was glad he was home! 1 Link to comment
Bernard Gui Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 (edited) The irony is that there are several communities in the San Luis Valley that were established in the late 1800s by Mormon settlers sent by Brigham Young, including Martin hand-cart survivors, English and Danish immigrants, and relocated Saints from Hickman County Tennessee (of Cane Creek Massacre infamy). Sanford, Manassa (hometown of the famous boxer Jack Dempsey), Richfield, among others. There was an LDS academy there staffed by assigned BYU professors. My grandmother was trained on the organ for several years by Spencer Cornwall, future director of the Tabernacle Choir. The Valley was a refuge for persecuted polygamists. Everywhere I have lived I have met members of the Church with relatives in the Valley. All of my mother’s grandparents were among the first settlers. Her maternal grandfather was San Luis stake president for 25 years and her paternal grandfather was mayor of Manassa. Relations between the Saints and Latino inhabitants were not alway the greatest, but there was mutual respect and friendships. It’s a shame that heritage was dishonored. Edited July 30, 2018 by Bernard Gui 2 Link to comment
Kenngo1969 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 On 7/28/2018 at 2:48 PM, cinepro said: It just popped up on Facebook and I obviously didn't check the date... Cynic-Pro: (Sorry, but I call 'em like I see 'em: If the Internet handle fits ...) While I'm not naive enough to believe that any organization in which human beings are involved is anything remotely approaching perfect, I do question the utility of cynicism seemingly being one's default position with respect to "things LDS." And, in any event, as I see it, even optimism which occasionally is betrayed still is better than cynicism and pessimism which are always rewarded. I do wonder whether your seeming propensity toward cynicism regarding "things LDS" might color how you respond to things such as the "old news" which spawned this thread, and whether that seeming cynicism serves you as well as you might think it does. One man's opinion. Feel free to take it for what it might be worth ... I wish you a very pleasant good evening. Link to comment
cinepro Posted July 30, 2018 Author Share Posted July 30, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, Kenngo1969 said: Cynic-Pro: (Sorry, but I call 'em like I see 'em: If the Internet handle fits ...) I've joked more than once in EQ that I'm a "skeptical cynic." It's hard for me to believe something, and then when I do, I make fun of it. Edited July 30, 2018 by cinepro 3 Link to comment
Kenngo1969 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 9 hours ago, cinepro said: I've joked more than once in EQ that I'm a "skeptical cynic." It's hard for me to believe something, and then when I do, I make fun of it. That was probably an unwarranted dig, even if, from a certain perspective, it is apt. I apologize. 1 Link to comment
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