I for some bizarre reason really enjoy participanting and being able to post on MD&D. I sincerely appreciate the mods for their patience and willingness to make this board a place where a variety of views can be shared and debated. But I often get frustrated when even some reasonable ground is fought over just because a believer or former believer made the point...yes at times we're all guilty.  Case in point, in another post today we were debating whether Jeremy Runnels was intitled to