savedwheat Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 Isaiah 46:9 "for I am God, and there is none else; I am God and there is none like me." Mark 12:32 "for there is one God; and there is none other but he." Nothing beside God. Just God before time and space.
Anakin7 Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 Exclucivity of a sweetheart in the scriptural structure form/model. In His Eternal Debt/Grace Anakin7 1
Zakuska Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 57 minutes ago, savedwheat said: Isaiah 46:9 "for I am God, and there is none else; I am God and there is none like me." Mark 12:32 "for there is one God; and there is none other but he." Nothing beside God. Just God before time and space. Before time and space, does not apear in either of those verses. 3
carbon dioxide Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 1 hour ago, savedwheat said: Isaiah 46:9 "for I am God, and there is none else; I am God and there is none like me." Mark 12:32 "for there is one God; and there is none other but he." Nothing beside God. Just God before time and space. If God existed before time and space, where exactly was God? If God created heaven, where was God before heaven? If God was in a void, who created the void for God to dwell? 1
JLHPROF Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 1 hour ago, savedwheat said: Isaiah 46:9 "for I am God, and there is none else; I am God and there is none like me." Mark 12:32 "for there is one God; and there is none other but he." Nothing beside God. Just God before time and space. See this is the major problem with your arguments. The add-on nonsense not in the provided scriptures. You can't just claim stuff not in evidence and expect anyone to take you seriously.
volgadon Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 11 minutes ago, savedwheat said: None includes anything. Do you currently exist? 1
JLHPROF Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 32 minutes ago, savedwheat said: None includes anything. Why? Because you said so? Nothing includes anything. None includes anyone.
Zakuska Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 Just now, savedwheat said: None means none before creation. You are reading "before creation" into the text. Sorry.
savedwheat Posted January 24, 2016 Author Posted January 24, 2016 (edited) At some point there was none beside God so obviously that is not now so it is before creation for once something is created there is something beside God. Edited January 24, 2016 by savedwheat
Zakuska Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 Just now, savedwheat said: At some point there was none beside God so obviously that is not now so it is before creation for once something is created there is something beside God. Following your own logic... "at some point" there were no other cities but Babylon. isaiah 47:10 You felt secure in your wickedness and said, 'No one sees me,' Your wisdom and your knowledge, they have deluded you; For you have said in your heart, 'I am, and there is no one besides me'
savedwheat Posted January 24, 2016 Author Posted January 24, 2016 None before God, beside God, is not the same sense as in Is. 47.10. In this verse the person was delusional. That's the context of the passage.
volgadon Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 52 minutes ago, savedwheat said: I do currently exist. Are you God?
volgadon Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 16 minutes ago, savedwheat said: At some point there was none beside God so obviously that is not now so it is before creation for once something is created there is something beside God. The two verses are in present tense. 2
carbon dioxide Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 18 minutes ago, savedwheat said: At some point there was none beside God so obviously that is not now so it is before creation for once something is created there is something beside God. So God was alone. If God thought it was not good for man to be alone so he created woman, then perhaps it was not good for God to be alone. I wonder at what point in the long existence of God that God came to this realization.
Avatar4321 Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 3 hours ago, savedwheat said: Isaiah 46:9 "for I am God, and there is none else; I am God and there is none like me." Mark 12:32 "for there is one God; and there is none other but he." Nothing beside God. Just God before time and space. there is no mention of time or space in those verses. nor do those verses mention nothing existing beside God. The speak of His preeminence in the universe.
carbon dioxide Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 1 minute ago, Avatar4321 said: there is no mention of time or space in those verses. nor do those verses mention nothing existing beside God. The speak of His preeminence in the universe. And the uniqueness of God. There really is not anyone on the planet exactly like me but that does not prove that I am alone on the planet. There are over 7 billion people here. 1
RevTestament Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 3 hours ago, savedwheat said: Isaiah 46:9 "for I am God, and there is none else; I am God and there is none like me." Mark 12:32 "for there is one God; and there is none other but he." Nothing beside God. Just God before time and space. When put into correct OT context, this could read I am El and there is none like me... because I am El Elyon the MOST HIGH God. Whereby you destroy your trinitarian position because Luke says Jesus was the Son of the Highest, and is NOT the Highest. The problem is Orthodoxy has failed to accurately grasp the OT because the early church looked at it through the eyes of the Greek Septuagint and lost the true meanings in the Torah. Jesus is YHWH Elohim with the Father, but is not El Elyon per scripture. Only the Father is the Most High El per scripture, and the trinitarian position is revealed as a false construct of man. So yes the Father is the Highest and there is none other like Him. Yet He tells us in Deut that He is an El of Elohim, and in Psalms that Elohim are His children. So until you know what you are talking about when you use the word "God" which is greatly confused in English Bibles, you are just spoutin' off.
savedwheat Posted January 24, 2016 Author Posted January 24, 2016 12 minutes ago, Avatar4321 said: there is no mention of time or space in those verses. nor do those verses mention nothing existing beside God. The speak of His preeminence in the universe. Jesus created all things...time and space is a thing. When the Bible says there is nothing beside God there is nothing beside God. This by virtue of His preeminence.
rodheadlee Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 11 minutes ago, savedwheat said: Jesus created all things...time and space is a thing. When the Bible says there is nothing beside God there is nothing beside God. This by virtue of His preeminence. 26 ¶ And God said, Let aus bmake cman in our dimage, after our elikeness: 1
savedwheat Posted January 24, 2016 Author Posted January 24, 2016 Trinity our likeness. I have a spirit, soul and body. My spirit is like the Holy Spirit. My soul is like the Father, and my body was like Jesus in that Jesus was in the likeness of flesh and atonement came from shedding His precious blood, substitution.
savedwheat Posted January 24, 2016 Author Posted January 24, 2016 I am glad I was able to bring fresh truth as if like Jesus was newly slain in Rev. 5.
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