LOSTONE Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Read this story and share your thoughts. As a parent of a young daughter myself, it broke my heart and opened up questions I can't answer. [ https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/moms-fight-to-let-12-year-old-daughter-die-in-peace-101190836767.html ] Link to comment
a1234lds Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 remember Helen Keller who was born and could not see and could not hear. look at the life she now has or had. Personally I do not agree with mercy dyeing with dignity. Heavenly father has a plan and we sometimes do not understand what that is, so we make mistakes doing what we know to be best, but do we really know what is best. Understanding that life comes from premortal existence, to life as mortal, to life eternal. Who are we to judge when we are as guilty as the ones whom jesus wrote about in the dust. A hard decision that I would not want to make. As the little 6 year old boy returning home was ask by his parents, where have you been? his reply was I have been helping Mr. Johnson, the parents replied, he is an old and broken with despair his wife is dead and his children left that, man what could you possibly help him with, He replied, I sat on the porch with him and helped him cry. this is all I can do as well. Link to comment
Calm Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I think there is a point where pain can interfere with every other experience of life to the point where one can't even think or feel anything but pain. If medication can only help by reducing that individual into a coma or vegetative state, I think guardians have a duty to consider letting nature take its course and that includes feeding tubes IMO, especially in cases where pain continues even if not as bad. If this life was all there is, I might feel differently as in let's hope for a fluke and a recovery but when there is much more to anticipate, freezing someone in what is to me a perpetual state of torture isnt always the right thing to do. 1 Link to comment
Calm Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 (edited) remember Helen Keller who was born and could not see and could not hear. look at the life she now has or had. Personally I do not agree with mercy dyeing with dignity. Heavenly father has a plan and we sometimes do not understand what that is, so we make mistakes doing what we know to be best, but do we really know what is best. Understanding that life comes from premortal existence, to life as mortal, to life eternal. Who are we to judge when we are as guilty as the ones whom jesus wrote about in the dust. A hard decision that I would not want to make. As the little 6 year old boy returning home was ask by his parents, where have you been? his reply was I have been helping Mr. Johnson, the parents replied, he is an old and broken with despair his wife is dead and his children left that, man what could you possibly help him with, He replied, I sat on the porch with him and helped him cry. this is all I can do as well.Helen's disability came from a disease, not being born with it. There is a good chance her early exposure to language allowed her to make a connection between water and the signed symbol for it as well as aiding her in learning to speak clearly.She was also not in pain as apparently this girl is.Can this soul be comforted by others? If not, would this make a difference to you?"Her health deteriorated and as she grew she would scream in agony for hours despite being given morphine and ketamine...“She was screaming and writhing in agony 24 hours a day. Not being able to ease her suffering was too much to bear,” Charlotte told the Mirror....“After a whole weekend of her screaming in agony, I decided I wasn’t going to watch my little girl suffer any more."http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/charlotte-fitzmaurice-wise-wins-right-to-end-daughter-nancys-life/story-fneuzlbd-1227103951401 Edited October 29, 2014 by calmoriah Link to comment
Silhouette Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I don't know what I would do, but I can say this much: I don't think it's right to let anyone starve to death or die of dehydration over a period of weeks, as was the case here because of removing feeding tubes. I know that a "quicker" alternative would be akin to murder, and I don't have a solution to offer. It just seems immoral to let someone starve to death and the victim (yes, I use that word intentionally) doesn't understand why they are being made to suffer even more. To me, euthanasia is administering an overdose of a sedative to put the person to sleep, and then die peacefully in their sleep. I don't view "pulling the plug" as euthanasia. Link to comment
Calm Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I found the method strange given she was on morphine already and had developed tolerance so upping the dosage was justified for that if there were no other painkiller options left and the judge was so quick to accept it. If you are going to allow death where it wouldn't occur otherwise, then be proactive about it if it is necessary for the comfort of the individual and what they want if they are capable of choosing...if the decision for death is made. Making that decision and then not helping so one can claim I did no harm...thati don't get. Link to comment
rpn Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I would not put the tubes in, because once they are in, it is hard to get permission to remove them. They are extraordinary medical intervention in my view. And in the LDS handbook, the counsel is that we are NOT obligated to have extraordinary measures to prolong life. Link to comment
Calm Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 In the case of this girl though, she was always feed through a feeding tube. I assume same with fluids. Link to comment
LOSTONE Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 I have a young daughter. I can't and don't want to imagine any of this. It's too painful of a reality of life. But my heart goes out to this child and her parents and family. Can there be a place for any of them that is not painful in something like this? Link to comment
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