Research On Kids Of Same Sex Couples

[EllenMaksoud]

Homosexuals experience a higher rate of suicidal ideation, and substance abuse than heterosexuals. When discrimination is factored in the difference largely disappears.

http://psychcentral.com/lib/higher-risk-of-mental-health-problems-for-homosexuals/0006527

 

The term gay has been loosely associated with homosexuality for a couple of hundred years now. Though the word association is more common now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay

 

The vast majority of childhood sex is with child heterosexuals. Further homosexual rape of children is a small percentage of all rapes of children. Pedophilia is predominately a heterosexual act.

SEE http://www.childmolestationprevention.org/pdfs/study.pdf

 

It should be easy for the LDS to understand. We took the politically incorrect slur "Mormon" and made it into our nickname.

Perhaps Homosexuals experience more suicidal ideation because of the rejection of family, church, friends. Though now days, most people that I know just want to dispense with the sanctimonious hypocrisy and get on with life. It is after all God's job to burn and punish the unrighteous.

 

Interestingly, my Lesbian VA counselor says that Mormons are some of the best, most loving, religious people on the planet. She stopped me from angrily walking away from the church.

[EllenMaksoud]

{sigh}

 

Just so long as one can shoe-horn this month's pet's story into the PC narrative it doesn't matter a bit whether the narrative is based upon facts, experience, or sound reason.

 

For example, the insistence upon ignoring the plain fact that male on male child sex abuse is a homosexual phenomenon, and no amount of PC redefinition of the term will ever change that fact.

 

~86% of male-on-male child sex abusers self-identify as homosexual or, at least, bisexual.

 

The homosexual lobby takes credit for those who call themselves bisexual when it suits their purposes, but in this instance, of course, they don't because the truth of the matter doesn't match the PC narrative.

 

USU "As for me and my house, we'll support the Boy Scouts in banning the wolf from the flock" 78

My abuser/molester was a heterosexual man.

[EllenMaksoud]

James 1:

 22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

 23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:

 24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.

 

Define "love" without including in that definition teaching the child and, when necessary, chastening the child who walks not according to loving teaching.

 

Be a doer of love, and not a hearer only . . . forgetting what it is to love when the cameras aren't rolling.

The best clinical evidence I have seen shows that children seek their own gender identity. My own experience shows ... Forget it.

[EllenMaksoud]

Are you making the claim that it was the parents' heterosexuality that was the cause of the "hell"?

If you are "fairly sure" that gender roles have caused "more harm than good", then no doubt you have ample data to back that up. Please do share.

As I am sure you are aware from my previous statements, unless you just want to throw science out entirely, my mother raised me as a girl, but my stepfather over ruled her when I was 5 and FORCED me to live as the boy he thought I was. He felt that the Doctors of the day could make a legitimate decision about which gender a child born with parts of the sexual organs of both genders should become. The man threatened to kill me many times and several times I thought he did it. In view of my subsequent life, I wish he'd carried through on the promise. Not an idle statement.

 

My life was fraught with uncertainty and mis-assesment by others. I was often thought gay, though there was never any homosexual activity, not once.  When things finally fell apart, despite the loss of everything I valued, I resumed the life of a female late in life. There was no learning how, I simply stopped acting like the person I never was.

 

Later, after the church spent nearly $1000, it was found that I am either XXy, non-Kleinfelters, or AIS, though the degree is not known.  I stopped further spending because no matter the final results, I had determined that I was now living the life role that God intended for me, though I do not know why it took nearly 50 years to right the wrongs.

 

You can make your snotty judgements. You have never met me. Though not a single person at my ward or stake level or in a half dozen wards and stakes I have worshiped in from Ohio, to Oregon, to Indiana, to Washington has ever said a single unkind thing to me. AND, Heavenly Father PUT me in this church despite people like you, who are captive of your narrow thinking. I have rehearsed what he has done for me enough here that I should not have to review the entire thing over again for your benefit.

 

What I have learned is to go to church and worship, but to distance myself from people of diminished understanding. And yes, much to their satisfaction I will never see the inside of a Temple, though I already did see one in Kirtland, though it cost me $3, about what it was worth to me.

 

That the GA have not addressed this is between God and them. If you have further lurid curiosity, you can purchase the book from Amazon when it is finished.

Edited July 14, 2014 by EllenMaksoud

[USU78]

My abuser/molester was a heterosexual man.

 

Scores of thousands of little boys are abused annually in the US by bisexuals . . . or homosexuals . . . depending upon one's definition of those terms.

 

That doesn't make any one of those, or you, particularly an authority.

Edited July 14, 2014 by USU78

[USU78]

Perhaps Homosexuals experience more suicidal ideation because of the rejection of family, church, friends.

 

So says the PC cant*.

 

Just because there is an appealing narrative* that tugs on the heartstrings of those who really, really, want to get things right and not misjudge others doesn't mean, however, that the narrative* has any basis in actual fact.

 

*This is hysteria, plain and simple; assuming, of course that your use of the preposition "of" in the final clause of the quoted sentence means "of"; i.e., rejection of the homosexual by his family, church and friends.  Assuming, however, that your usage means rejection of "family, church, friends," by the homosexual, the plain meaning of the words, then I would tend to agree with you

Edited July 14, 2014 by USU78

[Raingirl]

As I am sure you are aware from my previous statements, unless you just want to throw science out entirely, my mother raised me as a girl, but my stepfather over ruled her when I was 5 and FORCED me to live as the boy he thought I was. He felt that the Doctors of the day could make a legitimate decision about which gender a child born with parts of the sexual organs of both genders should become. The man threatened to kill me many times and several times I thought he did it. In view of my subsequent life, I wish he'd carried through on the promise. Not an idle statement.

 

My life was fraught with uncertainty and mis-assesment by others. I was often thought gay, though there was never any homosexual activity, not once.  When things finally fell apart, despite the loss of everything I valued, I resumed the life of a female late in life. There was no learning how, I simply stopped acting like the person I never was.

 

Later, after the church spent nearly $1000, it was found that I am either XXy, non-Kleinfelters, or AIS, though the degree is not known.  I stopped further spending because no matter the final results, I had determined that I was now living the life role that God intended for me, though I do not know why it took nearly 50 years to right the wrongs.

 

You can make your snotty judgements. You have never met me. Though not a single person at my ward or stake level or in a half dozen wards and stakes I have worshiped in from Ohio, to Oregon, to Indiana, to Washington has ever said a single unkind thing to me. AND, Heavenly Father PUT me in this church despite people like you, who are captive of your narrow thinking. I have rehearsed what he has done for me enough here that I should not have to review the entire thing over again for your benefit.

 

What I have learned is to go to church and worship, but to distance myself from people of diminished understanding. And yes, much to their satisfaction I will never see the inside of a Temple, though I already did see one in Kirtland, though it cost me $3, about what it was worth to me.

 

That the GA have not addressed this is between God and them. If you have further lurid curiosity, you can purchase the book from Amazon when it is finished.

Why the rage and name-calling?

I did not ask you anything about your personal life. I am not interested in knowing any more about that than I already know. And any question about that would not be responded to with with truth, anyway. Your life story has always changed with your audience.....Mormon....Muslim....LGBT community...and on and on. In person and in writing. I am interested in legitimate data, not fiction.

You made statements for which I basically made a CFR. Instead of providing your data sources, you went into a tirade, played the victim, and made a pitch for your nonexistent self-published book.

Why not simply provide the data references? They do exist, right?

[EllenMaksoud]

Scores of thousands of little boys are abused annually in the US by bisexuals . . . or homosexuals . . . depending upon one's definition of those terms.

 

That doesn't make any one of those, or you, particularly an authority.

Wow, you really have the bone in your teeth.

 

Let me amend that. So, there is un biased data out there? I can say from personal experience that many of the Mental Health professionals I have met are of the GBLT set.  That does not mean that I think all or most are, because I did not do a study and have read no data. And none of them molested me.

 

As to the Boy Scouts, I was never one nor was I a girl scout.

 

One thing that I have seen repeatedly is that if a Mormon feels attacked, I have seen them come back with a lot of verbal aggressiveness. Perhaps that originates from the cultural attacks they had to absorb in the early years of the church.  Let's be clear. Mormons are not in a position of moral vulnerability. The record of the church is pretty unassailable, though at times it takes a while to sort things out.

 

For me the whole GBLT thing will eventually yield to the science. Until then, God has not given me the task of being his little Inquisitor.

Edited July 14, 2014 by EllenMaksoud

[EllenMaksoud]

Why the rage and name-calling?

I did not ask you anything about your personal life. I am not interested in knowing any more about that than I already know. And any question about that would not be responded to with with truth, anyway. Your life story has always changed with your audience.....Mormon....Muslim....LGBT community...and on and on. In person and in writing. I am interested in legitimate data, not fiction.

You made statements for which I basically made a CFR. Instead of providing your data sources, you went into a tirade, played the victim, and made a pitch for your nonexistent self-published book.

Why not simply provide the data references? They do exist, right?

I called you no names and I did not respond with rage. I think I had you on ignore before. How did you get off that list. I will fix that fast.

[USU78]

Wow, you really have the bone in your teeth. So, you are an authority?

 

Perhaps.  More than anything I am a long-term observer who pays attention and remembers very clearly.

[california boy]

So says the PC cant*.

Just because there is an appealing narrative* that tugs on the heartstrings of those who really, really, want to get things right and not misjudge others doesn't mean, however, that the narrative* has any basis in actual fact.

*This is hysteria, plain and simple; assuming, of course that your use of the preposition "of" in the final clause of the quoted sentence means "of"; i.e., rejection of the homosexual by his family, church and friends. Assuming, however, that your usage means rejection of "family, church, friends," by the homosexual, the plain meaning of the words, then I would tend to agree with you

This post tells more about the kind of person you are thn it does about the discussion

[Damien the Leper]

This has gone way off topic. Thread closed.