Calm Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) I had no idea how bad it was. What I found out when I went into the records tonight. I don't have a future and will be leaving the church. Someone, and I know who, has put into the record things that I was told not to talk of or record. This invalidates the Atonement for me. I never discussed any of these things with anyone but the bishop. I had a nice 2 1/2 years though, the best time in my life.Even though I am not sure what has happened to you, it sounds very disturbing and I am very sorry. It can really hurt when things you believed were confidential appear to have been shared in inappropriate ways. One usually feels at the very least betrayed and vulnerable. What records are you talking about? I don't see how any family history records could impact your own standing in the Church. If the problem is family history records and you are the only member of your family, then who would be putting up your family records and the information on it that you find is inappropriate? People aren't supposed to enter other members' information they aren't related to or create records for them (unless asked). This doesn't make sense from how things are supposed to be done...not saying it didn't happen but just that it is really weird and something is wrong and should be taken care of if this is happening in the way I understand you to be describing it. I am at a loss to understand what is happening in regards to family history so perhaps it is something else? And it has been quite sometime since I did any of this stuff so I am wondering if others can even access records of those still living. Perhaps someone more familiar with the system would know? (I am assuming you are working with familysearch.org, right?) Are you referring perhaps to your own membership record instead? If you believe your confidentiality was breached, you should speak to the Bishop about having the problem issues removed. Please make sure you have all the correct information before making any final decision. PS: my husband is the ward clerk and would know what kind of stuff is supposed to be included in personal membership records and what shouldn't be. If you want to PM me, we can take this private and I will ask him about what to do when information needs to be removed, etc. and let you know so you can approach whoever needs to correct this with the correct information on how to go about it...you knowing what needs to be done will more likely cause them to act immediately and properly. He will also know who has access, ability to view, etc. Edited October 16, 2013 by calmoriah
lizrenowden Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) I have quite a few living people on my own rather convoluted and twisting family tree on new family search, so thought I would check what the site says. In the help section it says:- "To see your living relatives on your pedigree in Family Tree, you need to enter their information. Only you will be able to see these records" - I have copy pasted this direct from the help section of the site - hopefully it is of some help. Next to a persons name there is a report abuse button, if you feel that is what has happened I would urge you to report it. Alternatively, if there is a fault on the site that would need to be reported as well. I hope this is of some help - if however, I have misunderstood then please ignore me. Edited October 16, 2013 by lizrenowden 1
Bill “Papa” Lee Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 I had no idea how bad it was. What I found out when I went into the records tonight. I don't have a future and will be leaving the church. Someone, and I know who, has put into the record things that I was told not to talk of or record. This invalidates the Atonement for me. I never discussed any of these things with anyone but the bishop. I had a nice 2 1/2 years though, the best time in my life.Your family history means you have no future? How could family history end you membership and effect the atonement in your life, as you were responding to my post?
EllenMaksoud Posted October 16, 2013 Author Posted October 16, 2013 Your family history means you have no future? How could family history end you membership and effect the atonement in your life, as you were responding to my post?It's my history, not the family history that I am ashamed of. There is no police record or civil crime, and when a person repents they should be able to walk away from it. An individual entered things into my record that I did not put there. I know how he did it, but just did not think he would. I will be going to the Bishop.
Calm Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 So this is your membership record? Or something else that is more public? Either way, it would be very disturbing. I hope you can resolve it quickly and to your satisfaction.
EllenMaksoud Posted October 16, 2013 Author Posted October 16, 2013 So this is your membership record? Or something else that is more public? Either way, it would be very disturbing. I hope you can resolve it quickly and to your satisfaction.I hope so too. I do not know what it is called.
Calm Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 I hope so too. I do not know what it is called.Where did you find it? If you don't want to talk about it more, that is fine, you just got my curiosity up and I am thinking you might get some feedback on the proper usage of such a record by those who are experienced in such things on the board.
Deborah Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 My DIL is a convert and the first member in her family. She started doing family history and can't stop. It's totally addicting. Just when she get discouraged or frustrated, doors open up and she finds a whole new line. She is the genealogy person in her ward with no official training, though my SIL who is also an avid genealogist has helped her learn. I can tell you one thing from the experiences of these two, the veil becomes very thin when you are doing this work.
EllenMaksoud Posted October 16, 2013 Author Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) Where did you find it? If you don't want to talk about it more, that is fine, you just got my curiosity up and I am thinking you might get some feedback on the proper usage of such a record by those who are experienced in such things on the board.Well, the part that was really invasive and humilating is on Ancestry.com, and I assume they are not LDS. Finally did figure out how to get into my LDS record, and someone there had made somethings not easily accessible. While I was working, I did find out that the name everyone called my Mother was her middle name, not her first name. I still have questions but will not be going into our history center as the man that caused all this is there. I may just call SLC directly to see what I can do. Edited October 16, 2013 by EllenMaksoud
Bill “Papa” Lee Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 It's my history, not the family history that I am ashamed of. There is no police record or civil crime, and when a person repents they should be able to walk away from it. An individual entered things into my record that I did not put there. I know how he did it, but just did not think he would. I will be going to the Bishop.Membership records give name, address, ordinances' number of children, Priesthood and little more.
Calm Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 Ancestry.com is not associated with the Church but is a private company though if my memory serves me, my husband knows the person who started it and he is LDS. I think if you contacted them, they would have to remove it if you can't remove it yourself. And if you know how this person got the information and it was inappropriate and somehow through the violation of church confidentiality, you should talk to the bishop about it.
Calm Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 In order to ensure the privacy of its members, Ancestry.com automatically hides information for all living individuals. Only the owner of the tree and the owner's selected guests can view living individuals within a tree. Only the owner can choose to share living people through Story View. http://help.ancestry.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3082/session/L3RpbWUvMTM4MTk2NjM1Mi9zaWQvWHU3NXpaQ2w%3D
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