Deborah Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 My kids got this letter and don't know what to do and I would just say "none of your d--- business" and send it back. Any legal eagles know about this?http://www.infowars....edia/census.pdfAnd yes I know what site it's from but the letter is real.
TomesD Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 It's dated 2.5 years ago. The census is done. I'd say it's probably safe to discard
Deborah Posted June 25, 2012 Author Posted June 25, 2012 They just got it and it's the second one they got. It's asking about health insurance, job etc.
selek1 Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 If memory serves, this strong-arm tactic is under review in Congress,Apparently, a number of Congressmen and Representatives agree "it's none of their d%& business".I gotta go cook dinner (fried pork chops, potatoes, home-made gravy, croissants, sauteed asparagus and mushrooms).I'll see if I can find more references after dishes.
Deborah Posted June 26, 2012 Author Posted June 26, 2012 I found this website. This is harassment. Why on earth would you give personal information to someone who comes to your door and is probably paid minimum wage and who knows how legit the badge is.http://www.truthistreason.net/how-to-legally-refuse-to-participate-in-the-census-survey
rpn Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 (edited) Census workers do come with flimsy badges, for sure. But they also have phone numbers for you to verify their credentials. (And often you only get a life worker after they have mailed a survey and gotten no response, and then called and not gotten a response or was denied cooperation. One can make an argument that what the survey goes beyond the constitutional direction to count everyone every ten years. And despite what they tell you about how it is illegal for you to refuse, it is pretty rare that anyone is prosecuted for refusing. Proponents argue that it helps them dole out federal funds fairly, and help state and local as well as fed to plan appropriately for their citizens.And, the more detailed survey is done every few years (less than ten) on some measures. Edited June 26, 2012 by rpn
Garden Girl Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 If memory serves, this strong-arm tactic is under review in Congress,Apparently, a number of Congressmen and Representatives agree "it's none of their d%& business".I gotta go cook dinner (fried pork chops, potatoes, home-made gravy, croissants, sauteed asparagus and mushrooms).I'll see if I can find more references after dishes.What time should I arrive... and should I bring anything?GG
Deborah Posted June 26, 2012 Author Posted June 26, 2012 Here's the situation. My kids got this but they just barely moved to where they are now. They already filled out the long form in their prior house so any information would skew what has already been given. I think if this is for the benefit of the community the community should to the survey, a voluntary survey.
Stargazer Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 If memory serves, this strong-arm tactic is under review in Congress,Apparently, a number of Congressmen and Representatives agree "it's none of their d%& business".I gotta go cook dinner (fried pork chops, potatoes, home-made gravy, croissants, sauteed asparagus and mushrooms).I'll see if I can find more references after dishes.Where's my dinner invitation?! Sounds good! Yumm!
selek1 Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 Dishes are done.Here's what I found:According to the census bureau website, the legal penalty for telling them exactly where they can stuff their survey is $100 and probation.http://www.census.gov/acs/www/The Rutherford Institute and several other organizations are advising people on how to answer a/o fight the intrusive nature of the survey.The conventional wisdom appears to be that the law requires answers only to those questions which are directly authorized in the Census itself.Congress has both cut the ACS funding and proposed legislation to end the survey. This has the usual suspects in fits of fainting hysteria. I'm trying really hard to be sympathetic to their cries of distress.Really.Okay.Not so much.http://censusthis.wordpress.com/2010/05/29/being-harrassed-by-the-senseless-bureau/Gotta go get dessert ready:Homemade cheesecake w/graham cracker crust drizzled in warm, fresh made caramel cream.
blackstrap Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 Please Selek,restrain yourself. Some of us are eating.......hotdogs.
blackstrap Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 what is the penalty for ...um...fibbing on the census?
selek1 Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 what is the penalty for ...um...fibbing on the census?An intimate dinner with Nancy Pelosi and Sheila Jackson Lee.
selek1 Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 Please Selek,restrain yourself. Some of us are eating.......hotdogs.Hey, I do that too.Not if I can help it, mind,
Buzzard Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 An intimate dinner with Nancy Pelosi and Sheila Jackson Lee.Isn't it the 8th amendment that proscribes cruel and unusual punishment?
Deborah Posted June 26, 2012 Author Posted June 26, 2012 Facebook has a couple of groups of angry Americans regarding this issue. I think people are tired of seeing the laws being ignored in regards to things like immigration while American Citizens are harassed and threatened for not completing a questionnaire.
thesometimesaint Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 Deborah:We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
ERayR Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 An intimate dinner with Nancy Pelosi and Sheila Jackson Lee.NO!!! I'll tell/confess to whatever you want. Just write it up I'll sign it. AAAAAAAAAAAAA
halconero Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 So when I was in the MTC a little over 2 years ago I was assigned to handout and collect all the Census info to my district. Suddenly somebody pointed out the irony that a Canadian was in charge of overseeing the American census...so as a souvenir I may have kept a copy of it meant for a missionary who went home a day before due to medical reasons.........How illegal is that?
Calm Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 I was taught my American History class at BYU by a Canadian. I loved it. It helped prepare me for when I moved up to Canada and learned the other side of the story in regards to things like the American Revolution, the War of 1812 or the War of American Aggression (which Americans claim they won, but whose capital got trashed?) and such.
thesometimesaint Posted June 27, 2012 Posted June 27, 2012 calmoriah:While not a win for the US. The Treaty of Ghent did normalize relations between our two countries, leading to two centuries of friendship.
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