Okrahomer Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 Quite an interesting article: My link Link to comment
bluebell Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 I thought this statement was pretty funny-"Elizabeth Drescher, who advises mainline Protestant groups on using digital technology, was critical of the Latter-day Saints for pouring money into steering people to the church’s Web site.“Online isn’t just a technology; it’s a place to go. It’s a landscape. It’s as though you looked down the street and all you saw were LDS churches,” Drescher said. “It’s a way to triumph over democracy. To me, it’s freaky.”Considering what her job is, i'd say she sounds a bit jealous. I think describing successful use of the internet as a 'way to triumph over democracy' might be a bit overly dramatic. Link to comment
Okrahomer Posted August 18, 2011 Author Share Posted August 18, 2011 I thought this statement was pretty funny-"Elizabeth Drescher, who advises mainline Protestant groups on using digital technology, was critical of the Latter-day Saints for pouring money into steering people to the church’s Web site.“Online isn’t just a technology; it’s a place to go. It’s a landscape. It’s as though you looked down the street and all you saw were LDS churches,” Drescher said. “It’s a way to triumph over democracy. To me, it’s freaky.”Considering what her job is, i'd say she sounds a bit jealous. I think describing successful use of the internet as a 'way to triumph over democracy' might be a bit overly dramatic. I agree. Her response reveals a high level of "SEO-envy." Link to comment
thesometimesaint Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 Bluebell:It is also self-serving hyperbole at its "finest". Link to comment
KevinG Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 Good gravy!!! I made the mistake of reading the comments. No wonder the church has to work so hard to counter the outright lies and bigotry. Link to comment
bluebell Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 It doesn't seem to matter what the topic is, the comments section of any article on the internet always seem to be filled with people who come across like they failed the 8th grade.I almost never read the comments for that reason. Life is too short. Link to comment
blueadept Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 It doesn't seem to matter what the topic is, the comments section of any article on the internet always seem to be filled with people who come across like they failed the 8th grade.I almost never read the comments for that reason. Life is too short. I guess I never minded reading the comments. It tells me what the wackos are thinking. I hate Bill Maher but I'll watch it so I can laugh at the weirdness. There's no reasoning with them so we might as well laugh. Remind you of any critics at times? Link to comment
thesometimesaint Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 blueadept:I don't hate Mr. Maher. He actually has SOME good ideas, and he does have interesting guests. Now if we can just get him off of his two pet peeves, the food we eat, and his lack of religion. He'd be a lot better. IMNTBHO Link to comment
Daniel Peterson Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 I can't stand Bill Maher. Especially his claim to be "politically incorrect," since he's actually in complete lockstep with his particular ideological circles, who baselessly fancy themselves some sort of dismissive elite.I was sitting at an outdoor restaurant in Vienna a bit more than a year ago and, hearing a familiar voice, noticed that Bill Maher was standing on the sidewalk about six or seven feet from where I was, talking with a couple that I didn't recognize. The thought crossed my mind of making a witty and dismissive comment to him, or, more dramatically, of dumping my bowl of Hungarian goulash over his head -- but, for better or for worse, I didn't. Link to comment
ERayR Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 I can't stand Bill Maher. Especially his claim to be "politically incorrect," since he's actually in complete lockstep with his particular ideological circles, who baselessly fancy themselves some sort of dismissive elite.I was sitting at an outdoor restaurant in Vienna a bit more than a year ago and, hearing a familiar voice, noticed that Bill Maher was standing on the sidewalk about six or seven feet from where I was, talking with a couple that I didn't recognize. The thought crossed my mind of making a witty and dismissive comment to him, or, more dramatically, of dumping my bowl of Hungarian goulash over his head -- but, for better or for worse, I didn't.When I am in a masochistic frame of mind and want a dose of indigestion I will watch about one minute and ten seconds of the man. This is enough for extended periods of time. Link to comment
sjdawg Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Good gravy!!! I made the mistake of reading the comments. No wonder the church has to work so hard to counter the outright lies and bigotry.I thought some of the comments defending mormonism were just as strange as those criticing it. Link to comment
bluebell Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 I thought some of the comments defending mormonism were just as strange as those criticing it.No doubt. Like i said before, it really doesn't seem to matter what the topic is, the comments section is never the place to go for either good discussion or good information. Link to comment
sjdawg Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 No doubt. Like i said before, it really doesn't seem to matter what the topic is, the comments section is never the place to go for either good discussion or good information. It does seem to bring out some oddballs. Link to comment
Avatar4321 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 I thought this statement was pretty funny-"Elizabeth Drescher, who advises mainline Protestant groups on using digital technology, was critical of the Latter-day Saints for pouring money into steering people to the church’s Web site.“Online isn’t just a technology; it’s a place to go. It’s a landscape. It’s as though you looked down the street and all you saw were LDS churches,” Drescher said. “It’s a way to triumph over democracy. To me, it’s freaky.”Considering what her job is, i'd say she sounds a bit jealous. I think describing successful use of the internet as a 'way to triumph over democracy' might be a bit overly dramatic. Triumph over democracy? Using the internet intelligently to reach out to others is a triumph over democracy? Where do I even begin with that ridiculous comment? Link to comment
ERayR Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Triumph over democracy? Using the internet intelligently to reach out to others is a triumph over democracy? Where do I even begin with that ridiculous comment?I don't know where to begin but unfortunatly if you get enough of these people we are in real trouble. Unfortunatly I am seeing more and more of them. They seem to be comeing out of the woodwork. Link to comment
ldsfaqs Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Triumph over democracy? Using the internet intelligently to reach out to others is a triumph over democracy? Where do I even begin with that ridiculous comment?Not only ridiculous, but completely false..... Other religions have their "internet" message and presence out there just as much as LDS do.Yes, maybe as an individual "entity" we are doing the best job, but collectively, they are out there much more than we are. Plus, they don't even believe in a "central religion", they are a body of "believers", so what are they worried about?Anti's, drive me nuts! Link to comment
volgadon Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 I can't stand Bill Maher. Especially his claim to be "politically incorrect," since he's actually in complete lockstep with his particular ideological circles, who baselessly fancy themselves some sort of dismissive elite.I was sitting at an outdoor restaurant in Vienna a bit more than a year ago and, hearing a familiar voice, noticed that Bill Maher was standing on the sidewalk about six or seven feet from where I was, talking with a couple that I didn't recognize. The thought crossed my mind of making a witty and dismissive comment to him, or, more dramatically, of dumping my bowl of Hungarian goulash over his head -- but, for better or for worse, I didn't.I like goulash far too mcuh to contemplate doing that. Link to comment
Daniel Peterson Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 I like goulash far too mcuh to contemplate doing that.I like it a lot, too. Especially in Budapest and Vienna and environs, where they really know how to make it.That was one of the major factors in my decision not to dump mine over his very worthy head. Link to comment
Mordecai Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 “Online isn’t just a technology; it’s a place to go. It’s a landscape. It’s as though you looked down the street and all you saw were LDS churches,” Drescher said. “It’s a way to triumph over democracy. To me, it’s freaky.”This gave me a great laugh. Holy cow, people are ridiculous. Link to comment
Scott Lloyd Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Isn't exercising one's freedom of speech and of the press by means of the Internet -- today's counterpart to pamphleteering -- the very essence of democracy? I guess when Mormons do it, it automatically becomes sinister and subversive. Wacky as they are, the woman's comments are a manifestation of plain old, garden-variety bigotry. Link to comment
Calm Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 It would be interesting to know how much money is being poured into the countercult ministries in comparison to what the Church spends on spreading a positive message.We basically have one massive site, but there are multitudes of church backed websites for attacking which usually mention LDS among others. Wonder if the woman (can't remember her name) thinks those are overkill as well? Link to comment
Scott Lloyd Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 It would be interesting to know how much money is being poured into the countercult ministries in comparison to what the Church spends on spreading a positive message.We basically have one massive site, but there are multitudes of church backed websites for attacking which usually mention LDS among others.Wonder if the woman (can't remember her name) thinks those are overkill as well?Drescher said: "Online isn’t just a technology; it’s a place to go. It’s a landscape. It’s as though you looked down the street and all you saw were LDS churches,It’s a way to triumph over democracy. To me, it’s freaky.”Could it be that she is using the term democracy as a buzz word for anti-Mormonism? If so, she may be right. Effective use of the Internet by the Church could be a way to triumph over it.. Link to comment
Calm Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 More likely equating democracy with diversity, but it would be interesting to know whether she would miss the synagogues and mosques if Protestant churches were the ones dotting the landscape. Link to comment
Bill “Papa” Lee Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 I thought this statement was pretty funny-"Elizabeth Drescher, who advises mainline Protestant groups on using digital technology, was critical of the Latter-day Saints for pouring money into steering people to the church’s Web site.“Online isn’t just a technology; it’s a place to go. It’s a landscape. It’s as though you looked down the street and all you saw were LDS churches,” Drescher said. “It’s a way to triumph over democracy. To me, it’s freaky.”Considering what her job is, i'd say she sounds a bit jealous. I think describing successful use of the internet as a 'way to triumph over democracy' might be a bit overly dramatic. I was read an Article in “Christianity Today”…to paraphrase “The Mormons use a lot of printed material such as magazines and books to promote their doctrine”. I was reading this from a magazine while standing in a very large Christian Bookstore. I had stopped by to get some color making pens had saw the cover story I read it in line. Oh and the article called us “sheep-stealers’. A number of Churches stop by from time to time at my home to encourage me to attend their congregation. Link to comment
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