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History Question: When did we start 12yo Deacons, 14yo Teachers etc.


cinepro

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Quick question.

In the early days of the Church, it is my understanding that the Aaronic priesthood offices weren't generally given to teenagers, and it wasn't delineated by age. Does anyone know when the Church instituted the current policy of 12 year old Deacons, 14 year old Teachers, 16 year old Priests, and then Melchezidek Priesthood ~18?

Thanks.

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Interesting,

1877-1908, every youth 12 up at least one office

1908-22, age linked.

It goes back further than I had expected.

I remember talking to some RLDS years ago when I was first ordained a HP. I was surprised at how humble and respectful they were to this when I mentioned it. I was then quickly humbled when I learned they (dedicated adult men) were deacons and teachers.

Hopefully UD will note this thread and add some thoughts.

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...Hopefully UD will note this thread and add some thoughts...

Not much to say. Many RLDS deacons and teachers

are in their senior years and have more experience

and capabilities than most high priests.

What was the highest priesthood office filled by

Joseph Smith, Sr.? That may tell us something.

UD

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...Restitution [sic] Branch...

Sorry, I can't quit laughing.

In short, associate prophet.

UD

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UD,

I'm sorry; it truly is a challenge having an intelligence level only slightly above idiot.

I know, it was a Freudian slip in your behalf - you surely deserve some restitution.

I'm mostly embarrassed for the lack of respect, which I do indeed feel for it

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[A]ssociate prophet.

Does that come with a stipend based upon gross points from the sale of Hello Kitty merchandise?

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Does that come with a stipend based upon gross points from the sale of Hello Kitty merchandise?

Fine print of the setting apart blessing says "Good for 10,000 miles

or one false prediction -- which ever comes first."

UD

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Not much to say. Many RLDS deacons and teachers

are in their senior years and have more experience

and capabilities than most high priests.

What was the highest priesthood office filled by

Joseph Smith, Sr.? That may tell us something.

UD

If I remember correctly Joseph Smith Sr. was a High Priest and the first Patriarch to the church. I do not have the references handy, though, but if anyone asks for a CFR, I will try to dig the info up.

Glenn

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If I remember correctly Joseph Smith Sr. was a High Priest and the first Patriarch to the church. I do not have the references handy, though, but if anyone asks for a CFR, I will try to dig the info up.

Glenn

My question was a purely rhetorical one.

JS Sr. progressed through the quorums, holding

different offices at different times, until

made a high priest.

My point was that people like himself and his

old friend Alva Beeman, were in "lower" offices

(as old men) when other, younger members were

already in higher offices.

UD

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UD, this Associate Prophet is foreign to me. Given the following information can you give me a similar RLDS hierarchy?

LDS Priesthood orders and offices:

I'd suggest that orders of the priesthood represent a personal progression, available to all - foundationaly non ecclesiastical

Orders of the Priesthood:

Deacon

Teacher

Priest

Elder

High Priest

Patriarchal (thinking temple here -- UD take on this please?)

I'd suggest offices of the Priesthood are more ecclesiastical in nature. Of course several of the orders have associated ecclesiastical responsibilities as well.

Offices of the Priesthood:

Bishop (typically HP)

Elders Quorum President (Elder)

High Priest Group Leader (all remaining HP required)

Stake High Council

Stake President

Stake Patriarch

Regional Authority

70

Apostle

Assistant to the President (i.e. Alvin R. Dyer)

First Presidency

Prophet

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The MHA article discusses a period where the new, younger priesthood were given additional, non-scriptural responsibilities to help keep them busy. I had never realized that passing the Sacrament isn't actually a scriptural duty of the Deacons, or that Teachers aren't doctrinally required to prepare the Sacrament table (in fact, women had that duty for many years).

There is even a photo of some "Bee-hives" from 1945 who, for two years, collected fast offerings because there weren't enough Deacons, and they did a great job!

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UD, this Associate Prophet is foreign to me. Given the following information can you give me a similar RLDS hierarchy?

LDS Priesthood orders and offices:

I'd suggest that orders of the priesthood represent a personal progression, available to all - foundationaly non ecclesiastical

Orders of the Priesthood:

Deacon

Teacher

Priest

Elder

High Priest

Patriarchal (thinking temple here -- UD take on this please?)

I'd suggest offices of the Priesthood are more ecclesiastical in nature. Of course several of the orders have associated ecclesiastical responsibilities as well.

Offices of the Priesthood:

Bishop (typically HP)

Elders Quorum President (Elder)

High Priest Group Leader (all remaining HP required)

Stake High Council

Stake President

Stake Patriarch

Regional Authority

70

Apostle

Assistant to the President (i.e. Alvin R. Dyer)

First Presidency

Prophet

I think you have it about right.

As for my own history, all I'm comfortable in saying is that all

ordinances were performed by elders who either went into Restoration

branches or left CoC, and thus (except for baptism/confirmation)

are not recognized by the post-2000 CoC. Since this thread is not

about me, I think it best to leave personal matters at that.

UD

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